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craiso
10-14-2007, 08:11 PM
Greetings all,
Here are some pics of my rig. Right now it is modular, so I can get it around. I have been working on the Pilot's console for some time now, the stick has been my latest addition. I ripped apart a MS FFB 2 joystick, used the motors and PCB's and went crazy. The forces need some work, I need to find some http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l185/craiso/Project%20Intruder/th_100_1728.jpg (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l185/craiso/Project%20Intruder/100_1728.jpg)
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RC motors to replace the pitch motor. I made the upper assembly much too heavy, but wiith some work I think it will do fine.
Enjoy, Christopher
Michael Carter
10-14-2007, 08:28 PM
Really nice work Chris. I can't wait to see it finished.
When I flew 'Back to Bahgdad' I had built a setup like that for the F-16. Very crude, nothing worked (except the throttle), but it was pretty neat at the time with Thrustmaster controls. This must have been about '96 or '97.
spitfire9
10-15-2007, 01:32 AM
Yes,, very nice work .
I built myself an elongated stick a couple of years ago with a Sidewinder FFB.
It was too heavy and the throw was all off so I had to shorten it up quite a bit.
Still use it and the throttle quadrant I built using an old joystick board for flying IL-2.
Doesn't look pretty but it works great.
Trevor Hale
10-15-2007, 07:49 AM
The work you have done on that stick is amazing. Great job.
Trev
wollo
10-17-2007, 04:46 PM
Awwww Craiso man I feel like I actually need to swear thats so good.
I've got a torn apart stick too problem is I didn't know what to do with it.. till now that is. I want to combine it with a Cougar. I see you haven't used the pots out of the MS stick. Have you also combined two sticks?
what have you used as bearings? did you leave the MS optical pots attached?, do you mind if I bombard you with questions?
craiso
10-19-2007, 10:46 AM
Thanx all for the kind words. It seems that MS made the FFB2 just for someone to hack. I rewired the PCB's and put them in a box I got from Radio Shack. I found some RC car gears that fit perfectly to move the pots, and just made a sheet metal box to mount the motor assemblies. I will have to take some more detailed pics for anyone who might be interested. The reason I had to go with aftermarket pots is that I tried to clean the stock pots up a bit and used a chemical that destroyed them. I thought, well now that I killed my 100$ joystick I may as well integrate it into the sim. It works great for the most part. I think I wore out the motors with all the trial and error. I will be getting some high torqe, low speed RC motors to experiment with and hopefully that will get the return to center forces where I want them. I use FSForce with my stick, it is a great addon.
Christopher
wollo
10-19-2007, 03:07 PM
excellent. I'll look forward to the detail shots. I've already started building. I'm off to homebase for some other stuff tomorrow. I'll be keeping you informed.
Bill.
That set up is freaking awesome! Love it.
Triggerhappy
11-29-2008, 09:15 PM
http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php?t=12459
I need some help with the small pcb inside the stick.. Do you have any idea what the SMD components are? I need to make a new one...:roll:
craiso
11-30-2008, 01:30 PM
TriggerHappy,
This is a blast from the past. Funny thing is my rig has not changed much since I first posted. I don't know how much I can help. What joystick did you hack? I don't know what SMD is. Can you visually see what components on the board are bad, and what caused it to fail (power surge, shorted components and the like)? If you can, post some picks.
Christopher
Triggerhappy
12-03-2008, 02:06 PM
TriggerHappy,
This is a blast from the past. Funny thing is my rig has not changed much since I first posted. I don't know how much I can help. What joystick did you hack? I don't know what SMD is. Can you visually see what components on the board are bad, and what caused it to fail (power surge, shorted components and the like)? If you can, post some picks.
Christopher
1291
This is the one I am talking about.. It's placed inside the Joystick Handle, and make some kind of matrix for the switches and Coolie Hat..
I need to know what the three legged devices are, and the size if the resistor.. I completely distroyed my own when using to high temperature in my soldering iron. So now I have to make a new one..?
Any ideas?
1291
This is the one I am talking about.. It's placed inside the Joystick Handle, and make some kind of matrix for the switches and Coolie Hat..
I need to know what the three legged devices are, and the size if the resistor.. I completely distroyed my own when using to high temperature in my soldering iron. So now I have to make a new one..?
Any ideas?
I doubt you can build a specially made PCB. However, why not just wire the switches to another controller card, like an Opencockpits USB card or Leo's B360 series.
I did that with a joystick. Just soldered wires directly to the switches and ran them to an I/O card.
Hope this helps.
fweinrebe
12-03-2008, 03:29 PM
This is the one I am talking about.. It's placed inside the Joystick Handle, and make some kind of matrix for the switches and Coolie Hat..
I need to know what the three legged devices are, and the size if the resistor.. I completely distroyed my own when using to high temperature in my soldering iron. So now I have to make a new one..?
Any ideas?
You could start off with some reading about SMD soldering and SMD with this web page: http://www.smdin.com/solderingsmds.html.
If you damaged the PCB, you can probably throw it away. I agree with jmig, use the switches with a USB controller card. These cards are easy to use and not that expensive. I am using Leo Bodnar's card together with a second hand grip of a Thrustmaster Top Gun joystick I bought on eBay.
There is no need for a PCB to fit in the joystick handle. I rather build a non-SMD PCB and just lay the wires into the joystick grip.
The components on your photo ranges from transistors to resistors. The black blob is a microcontroller and that you will not a replacement anywhere, since it is propitiatory.
craiso
12-03-2008, 05:51 PM
Triggerhappy,
I have the part you need. I do not have the coolie cap, but the board in is intact. How can I ship it to you?
Christopher
Triggerhappy
12-04-2008, 10:32 AM
Triggerhappy,
I have the part you need. I do not have the coolie cap, but the board in is intact. How can I ship it to you?
Christopher
Well.. My adress is:
Lars Enok Wang
Smalamyr 32
5517 Haugesund
NORWAY
But how will I repay you..? Do you have a PayPal account?
(jumping up and down in joy:):):))
craiso
12-04-2008, 12:31 PM
Triggerhappy,
I do have a PayPal account, but no payment is necessary. I am just happy to help out:D. I have been holding on to this board for a few years now. I have never shipped anything overseas before. What would be the best way, FedEX, UPS?
Michael Carter
12-04-2008, 01:00 PM
The best way to ship overseas is USPS.
UPS and Fed-Ex will charge you your first born to get it there.
USPS takes about five to seven business days and it's cheap.
craiso
12-04-2008, 01:29 PM
Michael,
Thanks for the help. Are there any kind of customs taxes?
Triggerhappy
12-04-2008, 02:39 PM
Michael,
Thanks for the help. Are there any kind of customs taxes?
Shouldn't be any taxes as long as you mark the package with "spare parts".. They'll probably open it to check, but for once it's actually true..!
... I have a new hero..!:D
craiso
12-06-2008, 11:24 PM
Triggerhappy,
I have it boxed up. I will get the box in the mail on Monday.
craiso
12-09-2008, 11:10 PM
Triggerhappy,
Did you get my PM?
craiso
12-10-2008, 05:27 PM
Triggerhappy,
Your part is shipped. I have a tracking # through USPS. It is CP410132510US. It should arrive in 7 to 10 days.
Enjoy.
Triggerhappy
12-15-2008, 04:22 PM
Triggerhappy,
Your part is shipped. I have a tracking # through USPS. It is CP410132510US. It should arrive in 7 to 10 days.
Enjoy.
I caqn not thank you enough mate..:p
Did you send me an email with your Paypal? It got lost when I had to clean my hotmail inbox because of a virus? Could you resend it mate?
craiso
12-15-2008, 05:27 PM
Triggerhappy,
PM sent.