Michael Carter
11-21-2007, 10:48 AM
...and maybe not.
After copying and pasting my old working .ini file from FSUIPC and setting up the FS assignment page as on the old computer I'm having throttle drop outs and random reverser deployment on all three engines.
It's as though the program retards the throttle to the stops and then the reversers start. Sometimes only the sound of the reversers come on for a second with no noticable change in EPR or N1, and other times the throttle will retard to ground idle for several seconds and then increase to the previous power setting. Sometimes the throttle will retard to flight idle with no reverser deployment and then just as suddenly increase to the physical setting of the throttle.
Sometimes I have to bump the associated throttle to get it to spring back up to the previous power setting.
The reversers are not deploying when the throttles are physically pulled back to the ground idle stops. I have FSUIPC set up not to do this. I have F2 programmed on a switch on the reverser levers to do this.
I've checked for assignment conflicts between the yoke and the throttle and the keyboard and there are none. I have the spike box checked for the throttles in both FSUIPC and the Beta Innovations analog input card configuration manager.
I've calibrated both in FSUIPC and in Windows but the problem remains with these random throttle drop outs and reverser deployment.
I went so far as to open the .ini file and change all of the numbers associated with reverser functions to '0' except for one that had the number 256 with it.
If it helps, here is the .ini file and I also have an axis log of about twenty minutes but I can't read it.
[General]
History=SVW33HRJ4ESAQAYDMHAUW
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40
TrafficScanPerFrame=10
AxisCalibration=No
CentredDialogue=Yes
ClearWeatherDynamics=Yes
OwnWeatherChanges=No
WeatherReadInterval=4
MoveBGLvariables=Yes
TimeForSelect=4
WeatherReadsFast=No
MainMenu=&Modules
SubMenu=&FSUIPC ...
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=No
SuppressMultilineFS=No
WindSmoothing=Yes
AutoTaxiWind=No
PropTaxiWind=No
TimeSetMode=Partial
WhiteMessages=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
GraduatedVisibility=No
LowerVisAltitude=0
UpperVisAltitude=25000
UpperVisibility=6000
GenerateCirrus=Yes
WindShearSharp=No
UpperWindGusts=No
ExtendMetarMaxVis=Yes
PatchSimApAlt=Yes
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
AutoClearWeather=Yes
ExtendTopWind=Yes
WindSmoothness=-3
SmoothPressure=Yes
PressureSmoothness=5
SmoothVisibility=No
VisibilitySmoothness=2
MaxSurfaceWind=0
WindLimitLevel=200
WindDiscardLevel=400
WindAjustAltitude=No
WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000
MinimumVisibility=0
MaximumVisibilityFewClouds=0
MaximumVisibility=0
MaximumVisibilityOvercast=0
MaximumVisibilityRainy=0
OneCloudLayer=No
ThinClouds=No
ThinThunderClouds=No
CloudThinness=1000
ThunderCloudThinness=10000
CloudTurbulence=No
CloudIcing=No
WindTurbulence=No
SuppressAllGusts=No
ExternalOptionControl=Yes
AutoTuneADF=No
KeepFS98CloudCover=No
ShowPMcontrols=No
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=Yes
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=Yes
AileronSpikeRemoval=Yes
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
StopAutoFuel=No
TrapUserInterrupt=Yes
NavFreq50KHz=No
ClockSync=No
SmoothIAS=Yes
SetVisUpperAlt=No
VisUpperAltLimit=6000
MaxIce=3
MinIce=-1
WindSmoothingDelay=5
WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes
LimitWindVariance=No
VisSmoothingDelay=0
VisSmoothAirborneOnly=No
TrafficControlDirect=Yes
SuppressCloudTurbulence=Yes
SuppressWindTurbulence=No
SpoilerIncrement=512
ShortAircraftNameOk=No
FixWindows=No
FixControlAccel=Yes
LogAxes=No
[JoystickCalibration]
ExclThrottleSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=Yes
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=0
RudderTrimControl=0
CowlFlaps1Control=0
CowlFlaps2Control=0
CowlFlaps3Control=0
CowlFlaps4Control=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
LeftBrake=-16380,16380
Throttle1=-16380,-16192,-16192,16192/8
Throttle3=-16380,-16192,-16192,16192/8
Throttle2=-16380,-16192,-16192,16192/8
Flaps=0,16380/24
FlapStarts=-16384,1,2,2,2,2,2,2
FlapEnds=0,1,2,2,2,2,2,2
Spoilers=-16380,16380/8
Aileron=-16380,-512,512,10000
Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380
32=P0,6,C65752,0
33=U0,6,C65752,0
44=P0,4,C65988,0
45=U0,4,C65992,0
49=R0,0,C1001,0
50=U0,0,C1002,0
51=U0,1,C65580,0
54=R0,11,C65615,0
55=R0,10,C65607,0
57=P1,6,C65752,0
59=U1,1,K113,8
60=P1,9,C65729,0
62=P1,8,C65724,0
63=P1,13,C65804,0
64=P1,10,C66584,0
65=P1,12,C66583,0
66=P1,11,C65580,0
67=P1,15,C65808,0
68=U1,15,C65816,0
69=P1,14,C65807,0
70=U1,14,C65815,0
72=U1,11,C65580,0
73=P1,2,C65983,0
74=U1,2,C65987,0
[Axes]
1=1Z,256,F,66423,0,0,0
2=1R,256,F,65820,0,0,0
3=1V,256,F,66426,0,0,0
0=0Y,1,D,2,0,0,0
[JoystickCalibration.Dreamfleet Boeing 727-200 Passenger Air France Chief Pilot's Plane]
ExclThrottleSet=No
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=Yes
[b]ReverserControl=0
Reverser1Control=0
Reverser2Control=0
Reverser3Control=0
Reverser4Control=0
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=0
RudderTrimControl=0
CowlFlaps1Control=0
CowlFlaps2Control=0
CowlFlaps3Control=0
CowlFlaps4Control=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380
Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380
LeftBrake=-16380,16380
FlapStarts=-16384,-12524,-8078,-4345,-340,2850,6074,16256
FlapEnds=-15680,-11132,-5804,-1731,1356,5226,8042,16384
SlopeSpoilers=9
Flaps=-16052,16188/8
Throttle1=-16380,-3570,-3570,3570/8
Throttle2=-16380,-3570,-3570,3541/8
Throttle3=-16380,-3570,-3570,3570/8
[Buttons.Dreamfleet Boeing 727-200 Passenger Air France Chief Pilot's Plane]
0=R0,0,K190,8
2=P0,5,C65988,65988
3=U0,5,C65992,65992
4=P0,4,C65988,65993
5=U0,4,C65992,65997
6=P0,1,C65580,0
7=P1,2,C65983,0
8=U1,2,C65987,0
9=P1,3,C65993,0
10=U1,3,C65997,0
11=P1,4,C65988,0
12=U1,4,C65992,0
[Keys]
14=66,8,66379,0,66379,0
18=66,9,66239,0
19=36,8,65607,0
20=35,8,65615,0
22=84,10,65804,0,65812,0
24=72,10,66072,0,66073,0
[Monitor]
Display=1
If the log file is needed to figure this out , please let me know. I'm going to continue to investigate this problem and see if I find something I may have missed.
What I don't understand is that all the settings and such are identical to the old system. The only variable is the new machine.
FS9
DF727
latest FSUIPC release for FS9
Running XP Pro
Beta Innovations MM2 input card
After copying and pasting my old working .ini file from FSUIPC and setting up the FS assignment page as on the old computer I'm having throttle drop outs and random reverser deployment on all three engines.
It's as though the program retards the throttle to the stops and then the reversers start. Sometimes only the sound of the reversers come on for a second with no noticable change in EPR or N1, and other times the throttle will retard to ground idle for several seconds and then increase to the previous power setting. Sometimes the throttle will retard to flight idle with no reverser deployment and then just as suddenly increase to the physical setting of the throttle.
Sometimes I have to bump the associated throttle to get it to spring back up to the previous power setting.
The reversers are not deploying when the throttles are physically pulled back to the ground idle stops. I have FSUIPC set up not to do this. I have F2 programmed on a switch on the reverser levers to do this.
I've checked for assignment conflicts between the yoke and the throttle and the keyboard and there are none. I have the spike box checked for the throttles in both FSUIPC and the Beta Innovations analog input card configuration manager.
I've calibrated both in FSUIPC and in Windows but the problem remains with these random throttle drop outs and reverser deployment.
I went so far as to open the .ini file and change all of the numbers associated with reverser functions to '0' except for one that had the number 256 with it.
If it helps, here is the .ini file and I also have an axis log of about twenty minutes but I can't read it.
[General]
History=SVW33HRJ4ESAQAYDMHAUW
TCASid=Flight
TCASrange=40
TrafficScanPerFrame=10
AxisCalibration=No
CentredDialogue=Yes
ClearWeatherDynamics=Yes
OwnWeatherChanges=No
WeatherReadInterval=4
MoveBGLvariables=Yes
TimeForSelect=4
WeatherReadsFast=No
MainMenu=&Modules
SubMenu=&FSUIPC ...
ShowMultilineWindow=Yes
SuppressSingleline=No
SuppressMultilineFS=No
WindSmoothing=Yes
AutoTaxiWind=No
PropTaxiWind=No
TimeSetMode=Partial
WhiteMessages=No
ThrottleSyncAll=No
GraduatedVisibility=No
LowerVisAltitude=0
UpperVisAltitude=25000
UpperVisibility=6000
GenerateCirrus=Yes
WindShearSharp=No
UpperWindGusts=No
ExtendMetarMaxVis=Yes
PatchSimApAlt=Yes
DisconnTrimForAP=No
ZeroElevForAPAlt=No
AutoClearWeather=Yes
ExtendTopWind=Yes
WindSmoothness=-3
SmoothPressure=Yes
PressureSmoothness=5
SmoothVisibility=No
VisibilitySmoothness=2
MaxSurfaceWind=0
WindLimitLevel=200
WindDiscardLevel=400
WindAjustAltitude=No
WindAjustAltitudeBy=2000
MinimumVisibility=0
MaximumVisibilityFewClouds=0
MaximumVisibility=0
MaximumVisibilityOvercast=0
MaximumVisibilityRainy=0
OneCloudLayer=No
ThinClouds=No
ThinThunderClouds=No
CloudThinness=1000
ThunderCloudThinness=10000
CloudTurbulence=No
CloudIcing=No
WindTurbulence=No
SuppressAllGusts=No
ExternalOptionControl=Yes
AutoTuneADF=No
KeepFS98CloudCover=No
ShowPMcontrols=No
MagicBattery=No
RudderSpikeRemoval=Yes
ElevatorSpikeRemoval=Yes
AileronSpikeRemoval=Yes
ReversedElevatorTrim=No
StopAutoFuel=No
TrapUserInterrupt=Yes
NavFreq50KHz=No
ClockSync=No
SmoothIAS=Yes
SetVisUpperAlt=No
VisUpperAltLimit=6000
MaxIce=3
MinIce=-1
WindSmoothingDelay=5
WindSmoothAirborneOnly=Yes
LimitWindVariance=No
VisSmoothingDelay=0
VisSmoothAirborneOnly=No
TrafficControlDirect=Yes
SuppressCloudTurbulence=Yes
SuppressWindTurbulence=No
SpoilerIncrement=512
ShortAircraftNameOk=No
FixWindows=No
FixControlAccel=Yes
LogAxes=No
[JoystickCalibration]
ExclThrottleSet=Yes
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=Yes
ReverserControl=66292
Reverser1Control=66422
Reverser2Control=66425
Reverser3Control=66428
Reverser4Control=66431
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=0
RudderTrimControl=0
CowlFlaps1Control=0
CowlFlaps2Control=0
CowlFlaps3Control=0
CowlFlaps4Control=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
LeftBrake=-16380,16380
Throttle1=-16380,-16192,-16192,16192/8
Throttle3=-16380,-16192,-16192,16192/8
Throttle2=-16380,-16192,-16192,16192/8
Flaps=0,16380/24
FlapStarts=-16384,1,2,2,2,2,2,2
FlapEnds=0,1,2,2,2,2,2,2
Spoilers=-16380,16380/8
Aileron=-16380,-512,512,10000
Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380
32=P0,6,C65752,0
33=U0,6,C65752,0
44=P0,4,C65988,0
45=U0,4,C65992,0
49=R0,0,C1001,0
50=U0,0,C1002,0
51=U0,1,C65580,0
54=R0,11,C65615,0
55=R0,10,C65607,0
57=P1,6,C65752,0
59=U1,1,K113,8
60=P1,9,C65729,0
62=P1,8,C65724,0
63=P1,13,C65804,0
64=P1,10,C66584,0
65=P1,12,C66583,0
66=P1,11,C65580,0
67=P1,15,C65808,0
68=U1,15,C65816,0
69=P1,14,C65807,0
70=U1,14,C65815,0
72=U1,11,C65580,0
73=P1,2,C65983,0
74=U1,2,C65987,0
[Axes]
1=1Z,256,F,66423,0,0,0
2=1R,256,F,65820,0,0,0
3=1V,256,F,66426,0,0,0
0=0Y,1,D,2,0,0,0
[JoystickCalibration.Dreamfleet Boeing 727-200 Passenger Air France Chief Pilot's Plane]
ExclThrottleSet=No
SepRevsJetsOnly=No
ApplyHeloTrim=No
FlapsSetControl=0
FlapDetents=Yes
[b]ReverserControl=0
Reverser1Control=0
Reverser2Control=0
Reverser3Control=0
Reverser4Control=0
MaxThrottleForReverser=256
AileronTrimControl=0
RudderTrimControl=0
CowlFlaps1Control=0
CowlFlaps2Control=0
CowlFlaps3Control=0
CowlFlaps4Control=0
MaxSteerSpeed=60
Aileron=-16380,-512,512,16380
Elevator=-16380,-512,512,16380
LeftBrake=-16380,16380
FlapStarts=-16384,-12524,-8078,-4345,-340,2850,6074,16256
FlapEnds=-15680,-11132,-5804,-1731,1356,5226,8042,16384
SlopeSpoilers=9
Flaps=-16052,16188/8
Throttle1=-16380,-3570,-3570,3570/8
Throttle2=-16380,-3570,-3570,3541/8
Throttle3=-16380,-3570,-3570,3570/8
[Buttons.Dreamfleet Boeing 727-200 Passenger Air France Chief Pilot's Plane]
0=R0,0,K190,8
2=P0,5,C65988,65988
3=U0,5,C65992,65992
4=P0,4,C65988,65993
5=U0,4,C65992,65997
6=P0,1,C65580,0
7=P1,2,C65983,0
8=U1,2,C65987,0
9=P1,3,C65993,0
10=U1,3,C65997,0
11=P1,4,C65988,0
12=U1,4,C65992,0
[Keys]
14=66,8,66379,0,66379,0
18=66,9,66239,0
19=36,8,65607,0
20=35,8,65615,0
22=84,10,65804,0,65812,0
24=72,10,66072,0,66073,0
[Monitor]
Display=1
If the log file is needed to figure this out , please let me know. I'm going to continue to investigate this problem and see if I find something I may have missed.
What I don't understand is that all the settings and such are identical to the old system. The only variable is the new machine.
FS9
DF727
latest FSUIPC release for FS9
Running XP Pro
Beta Innovations MM2 input card