PM system and FSbus

[jrphcien]

Hello, I purchased the overhead from Poldragonet and the software used to communicate is FSBus Router. Unfortnunately, the config 1 did received sometimes disagree with the values of PMsystems files. How can i change theses configs ? ( i did not find any documentation on the FSBus site).
In the documentation of PMsystems, it is not recommend to enable the option COLD AND DARK ( i did it.....)
Any ideas ?
jean-louis

[PeterH]

Hi Jean-louis,

which FSBus router are you referring to. Is it FSBus classic or FSBus NG?
Please be a bit more specific as I don´t know Poldragonet´s overhead at all.

Best rgds

Peter

[jrphcien]

Hello Peter,

1-The fsbus version is the classic one (version 2.2.0.1)
2-THe overhead from poldragonet is a plug and play device but unfortunately, there are many dummy switches and cadrants. You will find below the instructions from them. the internet link is:
www.symulatory.com (http://www.symulatory.com)

[mpl330]

Hi jean-louis
I too have the Sym OH (and all the other parts) but haven't got round to setting up the OH yet. From my OH there are only a couple of switches that are not connected (plus the valves etc).
I am hoping to try and get this working in the next few weeks so perhaps we can report back our progress here, after all this is what this site is all about - helping each other.
The values assigned to the switch actions appear in the right hand side window in destinations, e.g. FS.PMSYSTEMS.PM xxxxxxx.PMxxxxxxxxxxx so you assign a switch action in hardware to a FS switch action in either FS or PM... in theory...
Best regards
Mike

[PeterH]

Hi Jean-Louis,

firstly, it would be wise to use the latest version of FSBus router sw, which is version 2.431. If you can´t find it let me have your pm address and I´ll mail it to you.
Secondly, it looks that the OVHD manufacturer had supplied a FSBus ini file with predefined switches etc. for their overhead. Did you try that??

Sorry, but in order to help I need quite precise info where you have trouble with in FSBus.

Best rgds

Peter

[eudoniga]

Hi gents,

could any of you get in touch with the Symulatory Team (Jakub or Marek) recently ?

I am currently left with some additional hardware I bought (Fire Panel, Six Packs, Landing Gear), without any ideas/indications about where to plug it to the FSCOM board and - above all - without the proper .fb2 config file ...

I am a person of good will, but good will isn't enough, and I have no idea about where to begin !!!

So this is definitely a mayday-mayday-mayday ...

Help !

[excalibur67]

Hi, this for me is one old history with Symulatory, from that i see they continue to sell the products(their products are cheaper than other producers but are good) but don't give at customers the after-sale support that they should. From this company i bought the throttle quadrant supplied with Fsbus software and fb config file, but i had one problem with that and after that i contacted them more times no reply at my request of help. At the end i solved from my self the problem.
About the service very disappointed.

Giuseppe

[eudoniga]

Dear Giuseppe,
may I ask HOW did you solve such problems ?
Where did you learn how to use FSBUS and drive the KEY/LED devices connected to FSCOM board, by telling and setting the proper Controller ID, Row, and Subrow ?
I understand you were confronted with exactly the same questions for which I am trying to find an answer ...
So your help upon this matter would be very, very appreciated.
And if you feel like writing here publicly on the forum in english, rather than sending me a private mail in italian, that would be even better, because I guess I am not the only poor soul in such a narrow spot ...
Grazie !!!
Eugenio.
p.s. però anche la mail privata mi va assolutamente bene, se non hai tempo/voglia di scrivere qui in inglese e se mi vuoi dare qualche dritta !!!

[kevinE]

"""could any of you get in touch with the Symulatory Team (Jakub or Marek) recently """


this is the same story all over the world...did he get your money... did you get support
we all learn the hard way dont we ..

[yoss]

Dear Giuseppe,
may I ask HOW did you solve such problems ?
Where did you learn how to use FSBUS and drive the KEY/LED devices connected to FSCOM board, by telling and setting the proper Controller ID, Row, and Subrow ?


Search Avsim cockpit builders forum for word Fsbus--there was a lot of advices on this matter

At least i did learned a lot there

Regards

[mpl330]

Hi gents,

could any of you get in touch with the Symulatory Team (Jakub or Marek) recently ?

I am currently left with some additional hardware I bought (Fire Panel, Six Packs, Landing Gear), without any ideas/indications about where to plug it to the FSCOM board and - above all - without the proper .fb2 config file ...

I am a person of good will, but good will isn't enough, and I have no idea about where to begin !!!

So this is definitely a mayday-mayday-mayday ...

Help !


Hi,

I will email you what I have...
Between us all we can hopefully sort these issues out - I am stuck on the OH at the moment, got the Pedestal, throttle and CDU working so far, not tried the MCP, EFIS and MIP yet...

Not sure where the Symulatory guys are at the moment - last time there was a delay in getting a response from them they said they had been to Australia...

Regards
Mike

[eudoniga]

Thank you guys ...

A working Symulatory setup would surely be amongst the most desidered Xmas presents !!!

;)

Eugenio

[alfsky]

Hello Peter,

1-The fsbus version is the classic one (version 2.2.0.1)
2-THe overhead from poldragonet is a plug and play device but unfortunately, there are many dummy switches and cadrants. You will find below the instructions from them. the internet link is:
www.symulatory.com (http://www.symulatory.com)

Hello.

Dummy switches on OVHD panel is only wheel well light (most right on light panel) and temperature selector on air condition pannel.
Jakub always sending information about this, with additional information. This switches can be also connected (on special request) but required additional controler (same for wippers, engine start selector,alt horn cutout, and presuization mode selector). This controler in standard is included in AFT OVHD pannel, but everybody can order it without AFT OVHD panel.
My english is not perfect, but I think better world will be "few dummy switches" then "many".

I'm not a symulatory.com member!!! I'm private home cockpit builder.
From time to time I helping them with some translation, also I make design of electronic part for OVHD/AFT OVHD panel.
Attached by jean-louis file was part of my PRIVATE e-mail for him.
I was trying explain them how to make basic test for OVHD.
From time to time clients with no basic technical knowlage has problem with assembly. Everybody on this forum knows that cocpit biulders should be a little IT/electronic specialist:) Everybody know about troubles with PM software.

Yesterday I was in Warszawa (capital city). My friend bought few months ago
Attitude indicator, Digital altimeter, and Indicated airspeed from flightillusion.
Attitude indicator doesn't work at all, altimeter has broken display.
They don't respond on e-mail, don't recive package with part's send for replacment:(
As I remember Poldragonet answer on all recived e-mails.
If anybody has problem with communication please let me know, I can forward message to Poldragonet.
Last time one client (from italy) has problem with FMC screen (standard PSONE), but he send it and has been replaced.

It's true I was in Australia this summer. Poldragonet has client with no experience with simulators. He could't find anybody for help on his place, so ask me about help. It was my private trip.
Last week I was in South France at my friend.
He also has own home cockpit. Most parts is from Poldragonet, and it working ok.
Of course there is still some problem with software (YES PM!!).
Anybody can make independent pressure selector on CPT/FO side?
What about STD pressure button? It works fine, we have nice STD indication on GC but pressure is not set for 29.92. Why? And many many more bug like this.

Best regards
Marek

[jrphcien]

hello again guys !

1- Marek, as you can read, my english is not my first language.......the OVH from poldragonet is a good products but yes, i am more a pilot than a computer fan !
2-i finally got how to change assignations with the fsbus router: first as stated by Marek, he send his personal fsif.ini and ovh file and while most of the assignations were ok, l did have to change values for lights and switches and then it worked better.
3- for Mike: i would suggest to verifiy the assignation of each light switche using the key test/dod light test function and their appropriate link to either PM system or any newer logic files. Doing that i did resolve most of my problems. Download from cp flight the mcpex1 op manual for PMsystem ( http://www.cpflight.com/sito/downloads/downloads.asp ) you will find all value for PM systems, the you can write the corresponding fsbus value (it become a paper reference....very useful...)
This thread was not to disregard any products, but to try to solve problems when we spend a few thousands boxes on hardware.....
Finally, i really appreciate you time and contribution to answer this message

[pinosoft]

Hi to all, anyone can send me the fsbus.txt for use with Poldragonet overhead and Pmsystem?

Thank you in advance...

Pino

[airbus319]

PM me your email address and I'll send you my Overhead FSbus file.

A word of warning though they are not all built and wired the same so you may have a mission on your hands to get it working exactly as it should.

Jakub from symulatory usually keeps all the config files so if yours was pre-built and wired by symulatory then he will probably have a copy of it.

Dave

[alfsky]

Hi to all, anyone can send me the fsbus.txt for use with Poldragonet overhead and Pmsystem?

Thank you in advance...

Pino

DId You ask at biuro (at) symulatory dot com ??

[pinosoft]

DId You ask at biuro (at) symulatory dot com ??

Yes, and I have solved!, thank you very much to Jakub!

The Overhead work very well now.

Thanks to all.

Pino

[Efe Cem Elci]

Do you mind sharing with us or putting it up in the files section? That way we can link to it here and others who need it later and happen upon this thread will also find a solution.

[alfsky]

There is 4 diferent version of config depend on particular configuration.
With or without AFT OVHD, with or without additional controler for not supported switches like Whell weel, temperature selector, wipers etc.
Correct files are always included in package or send to customers.
This files belongs to symulatory.com as a part of hardware.
Can't be shared for public. If You didn't recived it with OVHD , You should contact with biuro (at) symulatory dot com.

[Efe Cem Elci]

Oh. My apologies. When Pino asked for it, I automatically assumed that it was just a settings file that didn't represent any right infractions when shared.

[davidyaz]

Hi Jean-Louis,

firstly, it would be wise to use the latest version of FSBus router sw, which is version 2.431. If you can´t find it let me have your pm address and I´ll mail it to you.
Secondly, it looks that the OVHD manufacturer had supplied a FSBus ini file with predefined switches etc. for their overhead. Did you try that??

Sorry, but in order to help I need quite precise info where you have trouble with in FSBus.

Best rgds

Peter

Hallo Peter
Ich habe von jemanden ein Sim Boeing 737 NG übernommen und will komplettieren.
Sim hat Proj.Magenta-Fs9-PMDG Flieger-und ältere FSbus software von 2006.
Da ist ein Fehler in FSbus und ich suche dringend Unterlagen über diese ältere Version.
Leider hat der Macher von FSbus Dirk nach meine viele Emails sich gar nicht gemeldet.Und andere Experten haben hiermit keine Erfahrung.
Vielleicht gibt es jemanden der mir diesbezüglich endlich helfen kann
Lg
David