Mounting Roberto's Yokes

[Westozy]

Hi All and Merry Christmas from Western Australia,

Yesterday I commenced making new columns for the fantastic yokes supplied by Roberto, (Dodiano). I realise this maybe beyond the scope of non machinists but I thought I would share the building process anyway. First pics.....

http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/09Partsforcolumnhead-rdcd.jpg

http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/10Bearingbushmade-rdcd.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/12Columnheadassembled-rdcd.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/13Yokeflangemade-rdcd.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/14Backofyokemount-rdcd.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/15Yokehandleattached-rdcd.jpg

Gwyn

How sad am I posting on Christmas day?!!!!

[Matt Olieman]

It's not x-mas day yet, at least not here :) :) so you're in the clear....

Nice job on the mount, look forward to seeing the finished product... all put together :)

[QF6228]

Looks Good
I cant wait to get my set of these babys.....Merry X-Mas

Damien

[mpl330]

Oh dear is this what happens to Yorkshiremen when they go abroad, they go on websites at Christmas... Oh dear I just posted!!!
Nice yokes and cols there, do the yokes fit CH fittings until I work out how you build a proper column?

Merry Christmas All
Mike

[David Rogers]

I'm here too ! ....... but I have an excuse - acute insomnia for 4 days and night, caused by some medication!

Anyhoo...........

Merry Christmas !!

Gwyn - fab work. Have you looked into commercial support for mass distribution of your bits ? ...... I'm sure there'd be interest, given the quality and strong designs you have. I really wish you luck - hopefully order book saturation won't prevent us all placing orders and having your great bits in our pits! I would certainly be interested in a A320 Throttle Quad, once your order book has freed up a bit ;)

[dodiano]

Fabulous work Gwyn!! merry Christmas to all of you guys!! Oh By the Way Gwyn maybe we can ask Matt to post the pictures directly to the post!

Regards,

Roberto

[Matt Olieman]

Oh By the Way Gwyn maybe we can ask Matt to post the pictures directly to the post!

Regards,

Roberto

Glad to :) Gwyn if you have problems getting them to post in the thread Send me the pics by way of e-mail and I'll put them there.

[Westozy]

Hi guys and thanks for the +ve comments.

Matt, I've never been able to post big pics in the thread, Trevor tried to help me but we had no success. I will email my pics to you and you can weave your magic wand at them!

Roberto, the mounting area of the yoke is little difficult to work with as the fibreglass is quite thin. Is it possible to manufacture them with a timber ring installed at the back of the flange area to build up the thickness a little. I can see some builders are possibly going to have problems finding a way to mount them. I had to cut off the protruding section on the back of the yoke in order to have two flat surfaces to work with. I overcame this problem by glueing some thick waste plastic to the inside of the handle to reinforce the flange mount area. I drilled and tapped these reinforcements after the glue had set to take the four 3/16" bolts. Just a suggestion, I don't know what you had in mind as an idea for mounting them.

David, I have been selling parts for quite a while now although not officially open for business, I'm reconsidering this as the requests for parts are already overwhelming. I have a partner in Queensland who is exploring the possibility of professional commercial production of my A320 TQ design. We are just in the final stages of designing the backlighting panels and hope to finish the prototype soon.

These column head assemblies can be made reasonably quickly and I might produce sets these if anybody wants them, they would be priced about US$280 a pair + postage. I use cut down tees instead of elbows as access to the cable drive pulley is essential for aligning the two yokes in final assembly. The cut off section will have removeable plates attached later.

Gwyn

[Joe Cygan]

Looks fantastic Gwyn!

[Matt Olieman]

I attached all photos to the first post :)

[dodiano]

[QUOTE=Westozy;47513]

Roberto, the mounting area of the yoke is little difficult to work with as the fibreglass is quite thin. Is it possible to manufacture them with a timber ring installed at the back of the flange area to build up the thickness a little. I can see some builders are possibly going to have problems finding a way to mount them. I had to cut off the protruding section on the back of the yoke in order to have two flat surfaces to work with. I overcame this problem by glueing some thick waste plastic to the inside of the handle to reinforce the flange mount area. I drilled and tapped these reinforcements after the glue had set to take the four 3/16" bolts. Just a suggestion, I don't know what you had in mind as an idea for mounting them.

Thanks for the feedback I will probably make a Plastic ring CNC cut to place on the Back of the Yoke or I will ask the guy that molds them if he can make it thicker... I thought it was thicker on that part I actually specified on it!! As for the protounding section on the back actially that is from the original Yoke that part is where the mechanical Gear goes that connects the Yoke to the Stand itself so I cannot get rid of it but It can be made more solid!! My idea was to throw a nut all the way through the fornt of the Yoke to the back and then somehow attach it to the stand... Could you send me more detailed pictures of what you have done? Will make this second run thicker on the Back!

Thanks.

Roberto

[Westozy]

[quote=Westozy;47513]

Roberto, the mounting area of the yoke is little difficult to work with as the fibreglass is quite thin. Is it possible to manufacture them with a timber ring installed at the back of the flange area to build up the thickness a little. I can see some builders are possibly going to have problems finding a way to mount them. I had to cut off the protruding section on the back of the yoke in order to have two flat surfaces to work with. I overcame this problem by glueing some thick waste plastic to the inside of the handle to reinforce the flange mount area. I drilled and tapped these reinforcements after the glue had set to take the four 3/16" bolts. Just a suggestion, I don't know what you had in mind as an idea for mounting them.

Thanks for the feedback I will probably make a Plastic ring CNC cut to place on the Back of the Yoke or I will ask the guy that molds them if he can make it thicker... I thought it was thicker on that part I actually specified on it!! As for the protounding section on the back actially that is from the original Yoke that part is where the mechanical Gear goes that connects the Yoke to the Stand itself so I cannot get rid of it but It can be made more solid!! My idea was to throw a nut all the way through the fornt of the Yoke to the back and then somehow attach it to the stand... Could you send me more detailed pictures of what you have done? Will make this second run thicker on the Back!

Thanks.

Roberto

When I do the second one this week, I'll take pics of how I modify it to fit my flange. Some novices can be a bit heavy handed flying sims so I think a flange with a hollow axle is probably the strongest way to mount it, it feels quite sturdy. If the centre section was solid it could be drilled and fitted with a tube but that's a difficult drilling operation on a valueable piece of gear, it might break if the drill jammed. It was easy to cut off the protruding piece on the back of the yoke with a hacksaw and I cleaned up the sharp edges with the Dremel sander. This left a hole about 40mm in diameter, it should be easy to feed the wiring through.

Gwyn

[Michael Carter]

Nice work Gwyn.

Will you be using a shaft collar to hold the yoke to the column head?

[Westozy]

Nice work Gwyn.

Will you be using a shaft collar to hold the yoke to the column head?

The cable drive pulley when made and fitted inside the elbow will more or less lock it all together but I've machined interference tolerances so it's all "push" fit, the parts fit together tight without glue or fasteners. There's no real load on these parts only the link cable tension which is not a great deal. The last pics show the handles firmly attached to the column heads, it works! More pics soon...

Gwyn

[Matt Olieman]

http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/01.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/02.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/03.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/04.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/05.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/06.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/07.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/08.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/09.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/10.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/11.jpg
http://mycockpit.org/photos/GwynPerrett/12.jpg

[Westozy]

Thanks for posting those pics Matt, could you please send me a small tute on how you do it? I have the new passwords etc, thanks. (No hurry!)

These 12 pics are also in my 2nd album with detailed descriptions here http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=560

Gwyn

[Michael Carter]

Thanks for the pics. That explains a lot. Nice work.

[dodiano]

Oh now I understand you!! Well actually that protuberance you cutted out is original from the 737 Yoke as I said before is where the Yoke is connected to the stand! Now I cannot cut it cause that is thick so that people could throw a tube or something in the Middle to hold it... That was my original idea... but your approach is beautiful I would never have thought about that approach!! Now my casting guy is working to see if we can replicate the Axle or gear that goes behind those 737 yokes and they could probably fit a real stand but it would be a trial basically nothing for sure cause I don´t have a stand Yet to try it out!! Amazing Approach Gwyn but is not how I thought it would be reason why the Back part of the Yoke is not that thick...But the protuberance is!!

Thanks for that Gwyn very inspiring I will have to come out with something to linked but then again my idea for these Yokes was to provide an approach for each builder... I want to try adapting it to a CH Yoke will have to buy one and try it out!!"

Regards,

Roberto

[Westozy]

Amazing Approach Gwyn but is not how I thought it would be reason why the Back part of the Yoke is not that thick...But the protuberance is!!

Regards,

Roberto
The cap pieces I cut off were still only 3 - 4mm thick and pretty much hollow, you can see it on the 4th pic down in the previous post. They would only support a tube if it was fixed at the front of the yoke aswel, like you said before it would need to have the front face drilled. That would be a shame to spoil it although a checklist plate could cover it. With a flange fit you can consider any type of adaptation to any size of axle really.

I'll probably fit the switches tomorrow and take some more pics.

Gwyn

[Westozy]

Hi all,

I fitted all the switches and wiring to one yoke today and I've posted all the pics so far on my website like a pictorial tute.

http://aerosimsolutions.googlepages.com/yokebuild

Gwyn

[Michael Carter]

Very nice Gwyn.

The only addition I would have made was to cut a thin slot in the middle of your trim actuator to make it apear as two switches. Unless you did that and I can't see it.

[mpl330]

Very very nice Gwyn - wish I had the skills to make some columns, hope Roberto works out how to get them to fit a CH yoke :p
Happy New Year
Mike

[dodiano]

Will work on the CH yoke Fittings soon!! Have to get one first :) if someone has one they want to get rid off please elt me know!!

Regards,

Roberto

[jarrodc]

Will put my hand up for a couple (Capt & FO)if it can be adapted to the CH-Yoke. Great work Roberto & Gwyn

Jarrod Clowes
Australia

[Westozy]

Two more pics of the yokes ready for painting and installation.

http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=2231

http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=2233

Gwyn

[Westozy]

The yoke assemblies are pretty much finished now and I have masked them up and sent them to a pro painter for coating in gloss black two-pack epoxy paint. I hope to install them in the sim this coming weekend.

Picture tutorial at my website updated...
http://aerosimsolutions.googlepages.com/yokebuild

More pics when I get them back from the painter.

Gwyn

[ozziesim]

Looks awsome Gwyn, cant wait to come over an have a look !!

[Paul Thomas]

This new Yoke setup looks nice and I'm following this project of Gwyn's with great interest.