WWII sims, Anyone?

[btlnco]

hello

Just wondering if there are any WWII home built simulators on here?
I see most are airliners or business jets and a few modern military.
just curious, I guess. thinking about building a cockpit section of the SBD dauntless. Just because I dont have room for a glass cockpit right now. and could use this time to hone my building skills. that, and a warbird will be just plain fun! :p

thanks
jason

[Bob Reed]

Hello Jason and welcome to the nut farm! I don't know if there are any WWII cockpits here but there are number of GAs. I have a love with the WWII stuff in fact I belong to a museum here that has several flying WWII aircraft including the B17 that played the Memphis Belle in the movie. I do think it would be fun. Go for it and lets see pictures!!

[aviaparts]

Hi

Certainly a challenge en a beautiful project. Not really a warbird but close is this one :

http://home.versateladsl.be/verlejan/welcome.html

[BlackWidow]

I would love to build a B-25, B-17 or a fighter from the WWII period. Since i have already purcahsed the GC software thats the way i will go. But who knows maybe oneday I will build one. There is a B-17 sim located here http://www.dutch-mountains.com/B-17project.html but I have not seen an update to this site in a looooong time so not sure if it is even in continuation or not.

[BHawthorne]

I've pondered doing a P-51. I have the NASM blueprint collection for that plane.

[btlnco]

found this website as i was looking for info on a WWII sim.
great Idea i like the FW-190 sim. looks good and the movies are good as well.

http://www.schreinerschmid.com/11501.html

hope you guys like
Jason

[BlackWidow]

There is another FW-190 sim out there on the web it was done with extreme detail, but i cant seem to find the page here is a BF-109 http://www.edbert.net/109pit.htm and here is a Spitfire project http://www.simcontrol.co.uk/offboard.htm And here is my all time favorite this is a Spitfire beign built from the actual blueprints the work is absolutely AMAZING my hats off to the gentelman who is building this simpit http://www.simhardware.org/

[funhouse]

Hello chaps,
My first post at the forum. I'm the guy building the Spitfire cockpit section and was directed here by a friend working on the technical side of the Spitfire project, thanks for the very kind words Matt O, in the e mail that was passed on, and to BlackWidow regarding the project.

One of the biggest challenges on the build is the sheet metalwork; and it’s been quite a steep learning curve, as I have no knowledge on that side of things. Tracking down good information is another challenge, trying to obtain information on the various cockpit fittings has taken up more time than the actual building. As to my choice of the Spitfire cockpit, well, the old Rowan BoB flight sim has the code that can be used to bring the cockpit to life, and my aviation interest is the WW2 era in general.
To anyone thinking about a WW2 cockpit, go for it, but be prepared to spend quite a few hours looking for accurate information of your chosen subject.

Regards,
Dave

[BHawthorne]

Hello chaps,
My first post at the forum. I'm the guy building the Spitfire cockpit section and was directed here by a friend working on the technical side of the Spitfire project, thanks for the very kind words Matt O, in the e mail that was passed on, and to BlackWidow regarding the project.

One of the biggest challenges on the build is the sheet metalwork; and it’s been quite a steep learning curve, as I have no knowledge on that side of things. Tracking down good information is another challenge, trying to obtain information on the various cockpit fittings has taken up more time than the actual building. As to my choice of the Spitfire cockpit, well, the old Rowan BoB flight sim has the code that can be used to bring the cockpit to life, and my aviation interest is the WW2 era in general.
To anyone thinking about a WW2 cockpit, go for it, but be prepared to spend quite a few hours looking for accurate information of your chosen subject.

Regards,
Dave

Good to see you here. I always like to see interesting and original simpit projects. The attention to original detail in your work is impressive! Your sheetmetal forming how-to's are really interesting reading. It gives me a bunch of ideas. I look forward to watching your progress. :)

[btlnco]

WOW, i guess i have some stuff to think about. i thought some plywood, and MDF would work, but i see I'm gonna have to learn to do sheet metal work. and I suppose how to rivet also :p
I thought maybe A simple structure would be suffice, but as I research this more, the more i want to do it right.. GRRRRR, Figures..
just spent about $100 USD on books and manuals on the SDB. now i just need to find plans on any type of SBD Dauntless. anyone have an idea? i was thinking of using Large scale RC plans for the hull? or is there a place where i can get real blueprint copies?
thanks
Jason

[BHawthorne]

WOW, i guess i have some stuff to think about. i thought some plywood, and MDF would work, but i see I'm gonna have to learn to do sheet metal work. and I suppose how to rivet also :p
I thought maybe A simple structure would be suffice, but as I research this more, the more i want to do it right.. GRRRRR, Figures..
just spent about $100 USD on books and manuals on the SDB. now i just need to find plans on any type of SBD Dauntless. anyone have an idea? i was thinking of using Large scale RC plans for the hull? or is there a place where i can get real blueprint copies?
thanks
Jason

NASM would no doubt have a complete microfilm of the blueprints, since it's a 1940's aircraft. Only issue there is the $30 per roll.

[btlnco]

NASM would no doubt have a complete microfilm of the blueprints, since it's a 1940's aircraft. Only issue there is the $30 per roll.

and how does one go about getting them? or at least looking for them? form NASM?:roll:
thanks
jason

[BlackWidow]

Another source might be the RC (radio control) hobby alot of time they have scaled drawings for sale. Just an idea.

[BlackWidow]

I know its not a SDB but MAAM has TBM comeing out soon

http://www.maam.org/flightsim/news/NEWS.htm

[btlnco]

I know its not a SDB but MAAM has TBM comeing out soon

http://www.maam.org/flightsim/news/NEWS.htm

thats pretty nice.
but I'll stick with my SBD :p

just won some 3//4"=1' scale plans off ebay for a SBD so, give me a week, and I'll be asking more questions lol.

if i get real desperate, i can fly to Peachtree GA.
, and for about $500 USD, i can get a ride in a SBD for 20 mins..... allot for a short time, but im sure it would be worth it.

Also found repro head gear, flight suit, goggles, boots, and Mae west... If i wanted to get carried away :roll:

Found some original parts of a p-51, but alas, my heart is with the Dauntless.

also bought IL-2 Pacific fighters. Im sure that will bring more questions too :cool:

Jason

[BHawthorne]

and how does one go about getting them? or at least looking for them? form NASM?:roll:
thanks
jason

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/arch/collections/techdraw/mfilm.cfm

Do a "custom search printout", wait about a month and you'll get a big envelope in the mail detailing all technical drawings and manuals they have for your particular aircraft of interest. It comes with an itemized list of prices to purchase copies of the material. Some of the pricing is downright insane, but if the aircraft doesn't have too many rolls of microfilm, you could be in good shape. I'm working on a WB-47E project atm. That particular plane has over 100 rolls of microfilm at $30 a roll. I just hope it's not as bad for the Dauntless. To compare, the P-51 has 29 rolls of microfilm covering all variants. Would probably be best to be specific as possible as to what version of the plane you want to do if you buy NASM microfilm, as you could narrow down the needed microfilm rolls. This route is for those who want to be authentic as possible. Going this route givens you the manufacturers technical drawings for every rivet in the plane.

[btlnco]

http://www.nasm.si.edu/research/arch/collections/techdraw/mfilm.cfm

Do a "custom search printout", wait about a month and you'll get a big envelope in the mail detailing all technical drawings and manuals they have for your particular aircraft of interest. It comes with an itemized list of prices to purchase copies of the material. Some of the pricing is downright insane, but if the aircraft doesn't have too many rolls of microfilm, you could be in good shape. I'm working on a WB-47E project atm. That particular plane has over 100 rolls of microfilm at $30 a roll. I just hope it's not as bad for the Dauntless. To compare, the P-51 has 29 rolls of microfilm covering all variants. Would probably be best to be specific as possible as to what version of the plane you want to do if you buy NASM microfilm, as you could narrow down the needed microfilm rolls. This route is for those who want to be authentic as possible. Going this route givens you the manufacturers technical drawings for every rivet in the plane.

Fantastic, Just requested info for a SBD-3 Thanks!
Jason

[Mathieu]

Hi Jason,

Any progress? I have just registered myself yesterday because I want to add sims technique to my project. I am building a full scale fuselage of a Fokker G.1 fighter from 1939. The cockpit is getting shape and I tought it would be nice if the instruments "work" so now I am trying to find sufficient information to make it happen. Attached a photo of my cockpit frame.

Best regards,

Mathieu.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/moyfrid/DSC01156.jpg

[BlackWidow]

Mathieu

Nice job. how did you do the windscreen it looks fantastic.

[MudPuppy]

The frame looks great, Mathieu. I don't know that I've seen someone building a G-1 cockpit before. I am in still in the early stages of seat and base construction on a generic WWII pit so I'm looking forward to some pics of your progress.
Regards,
Derek

[Mathieu]

Hi Mike,

The windscreen is constructed of tubes of 15mm (0.59") diameter, steelsheet of 1mm ( 0.04") and plexiglas of 4mm ( 0.16"). A friend of my is redesigning the G.1 and provide me with the drawing, at his website you can find more about his work. www.fokker-g1.nl
Attached a photo how it looks now.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f326/moyfrid/stuurhuisS32k.jpg
@Derek,

I am surprised that so few are build WW2 warbird cockpit sims, but perhaps that will changes in the future when people can see such sims in working condition. But If you like to build something special you could consider to build a Fokker D.XXI fighter sims, an aircraft with a great history paricular in the Finnish war against the russians. In germany there is a company that sell sims from the Messerschmitt 109 and the NA P51 a link to a short impression is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49aEJrM0Eac

Best regards,

Mathieu.