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Trevor Hale

10-12-2008, 10:21 PM

Hi Guys,

Thought I would show those who are interested what I built this weekend. I started Saturday Morning, and just put the tools down now. As you can see, I have started to cover the roof with the first coat.

http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/544/medium/IMGP2337.JPG
http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/544/medium/IMGP2345.JPG
http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/544/medium/IMGP2343.JPG
http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/544/medium/IMGP2340.JPG
http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/544/medium/IMGP2338.JPG
http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/544/medium/IMGP2341.JPG

Trev

warvet

10-12-2008, 10:30 PM

Looks fantastic Trev, a heell of alot of work for sure. But I never cease to wonder why do people build the shell to look like a plane fuselage when the real sims are just a box with the flightdeck inside. That never ever made sense to me. Its a whole ton of extra work for no real functional value. For the cost it takes to build and cover a shell you could put that money into the actual flight deck, scenery and visuals, after all thats really what makes a flight simulator come to life. JMO

Tim

Trevor Hale

10-12-2008, 10:39 PM

I agree 100% with you, however I only paid 100 bucks for the materials..

Other then the fact it is a lot of work. for me to try to get the shape inside right, I figured I would just make the shape on the outside right too.

Besides. Its more for the wow factor. Looks cool :)

But I do agree with you, it is really pointless to some extent.

Trev

JBaymore

10-12-2008, 11:29 PM

....... when the real sims are just a box with the flightdeck inside.

Hence my "White Box" approach. ;)

best,

................john

PS: But the "aricraft look" does give you a WOW factor that is hard to beat.

Michael Carter

10-12-2008, 11:37 PM

It looks great Trevor. That's a whole lot of work in a short time.

I couldn't do that much work with a belly full of turkey! ;)

Efe Cem Elci

10-13-2008, 01:39 AM

Well isn't the box with a flight deck inside constructed similar to this?
http://www.aerodeckengineering.com/Products/Screen/images/06.jpg

If you're not going for a full motion flight deck approach (and most of us are not) then it makes sense to have just the internal portion, which looks just like an airliner nose portion with an alternate display setup worked in that suits your location/budget. And as Trevor and John stated, it does really make for an impressive look. As most builders go for an "as real as it gets" approach, why not make it look like the real thing?

warvet

10-13-2008, 03:44 AM

WOW Efe,
Now i know why your the new Director of Marketing, you managed to agree with everyone at the same time offend noone hmmmmm thats quite a feat indeed :)

Tim

AndyT

10-13-2008, 04:21 AM

Tim, Yep. Them sales types are good at that you know.... ;)

Trevor Hale

10-13-2008, 08:53 AM

It looks great Trevor. That's a whole lot of work in a short time.

I couldn't do that much work with a belly full of turkey! ;)

Thanks Mike,

I agree it was hard, but I had help from my Father, 2 hands are faster then one. I couldn't get my head around all the angles. Especially for the windows. It was not nice indeed. But the end result is amazing.

I am very happy with it, and now heading back down to cover more of the roof :)

Trev

Tracy Hale

10-13-2008, 08:56 AM

I agree it was hard, but I had help from my Father, 2 hands are faster then one.

And now I get to help him today :roll: :mrgreen:

Michael Carter

10-13-2008, 09:09 AM

Busy hands are happy hands. ;)

I too had trouble getting my head around all of the compound angles present in the window structure(s).

Get one angle right and the rest look wrong. Change that one, and then parts don't quite fit anymore. Re-cut, and then test fit again. And again, and sometimes yet again. Getting these angles to approximately correct was harder than building my throttle.

The mitre box and the adjustable jig saw had quite a workout with this area of the build.

JBaymore

10-13-2008, 09:47 AM

WOW Efe,
Now i know why your the new Director of Marketing, you managed to agree with everyone at the same time offend noone hmmmmm thats quite a feat indeed :)

Tim

;) Efe for President! ;)

BHawthorne

10-13-2008, 10:27 AM

Wow, that's a lot of progress on a shell build for one weekend. Good job! :D

Radar

10-13-2008, 10:49 AM

:DMan that looks great Trevor. Keep up the great work. If i'm ever down your way I would love to see your wife !!! Oh.. Oh.. I mean your sim:oops:

Mike

Joe Cygan

10-13-2008, 11:40 AM

Outstanding work Trevor!

jmig

10-13-2008, 11:50 AM

Trevor Hale

10-13-2008, 02:20 PM

That is more than I could do in one weekend. Why build it to look like an airplane vs a box. The answer is simple.

When you wife brings the bridge club in to see what the crazy husband is up to, they need to see an AIRPLANE and not a box.

Everyone knows you can't fly a box.

You are soooo right. Bragging rights :)

I will post new pictures shortley. Almost finished covering the roof, and has that MEAN look to it.

Trev

Tracy Hale

10-13-2008, 02:39 PM

When you wife brings the bridge club in to see what the crazy husband is up to, they need to see an AIRPLANE and not a box.

:shock: What makes you think I show my friends how insane my hubby is? :p :lol:

mpl330

10-13-2008, 03:07 PM

Looks great Trev!
But can I ask, why are the windows blanked out? :oops:

Is it a template to get the angles correct?

Doh - so naive!
Cheers
Mike

Trevor Hale

10-13-2008, 03:10 PM

ROFL. Mike your exactly right. It is almost imposible to build window frames without windows. In order to keep everything alligned correctly, I had to make fake windows, for obvious reasons, you don't want to practice with expensive plexi. So we made window templates and It also holds everything together firmly when attaching the stringers.

Funny enough, I have just removed the front two windows (fake ones) to have a look, and I almost pee'd myself. Looks great.

Trev

magicaldr

10-13-2008, 04:03 PM

That is more than I could do in one weekend. Why build it to look like an airplane vs a box. The answer is simple.

When you wife brings the bridge club in to see what the crazy husband is up to, they need to see an AIRPLANE and not a box.

Everyone knows you can't fly a box.

I am with jmig, not that I have got past daydreaming of a shell at moment with my desktop sim. When I do, its got to look good if I expect to get permission to have it in the corner of the lounge :)

p.s. While a 747 for me would result in instant divorce, yours does look great Trev

Sunday

10-13-2008, 05:12 PM

Very nice work!

I look forward to seeing more pictures.

mpl330

10-13-2008, 07:25 PM

Trevor Hale

10-13-2008, 08:30 PM

Here is a couple more from today Guys.

http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/544/22.JPG

http://www.mycockpit.org/photopost/data/544/110.JPG

Trev

Trevor Hale

10-13-2008, 08:33 PM

Sheesh - no wonder mine isnt looking quite right:roll: I tried a frame 1st... Oh well how many others don't get it right 1st time, we all learn:D

A shell in a weekend, I've been trying to get this sidewall going for days now:cry:, good going Trev!

More pics please
Cheers
Mike

Keep in Mind Mike, this is #4 for me, so your not doing to bad. LOL

Thanks for the kind words guys. Makes me excited just looking at it. Sitting in it making airplane noises is next.

Trev

Efe Cem Elci

10-14-2008, 04:01 AM

That looks like it is definitely getting along nicely Mike. I see some sanding in your horoscope :)

Efe Cem Elci

10-14-2008, 04:13 AM

Lol... Just now read some of the earlier messages in this thread :)

WOW Efe,
Now i know why your the new Director of Marketing, you managed to agree with everyone at the same time offend noone hmmmmm thats quite a feat indeed :)

In Turkiye we have a tale that is attributed to Hodja Nasreddin (an eccentric wise man that is said to have lived long ago, Nasreddin Hoca in Turkish):

The villagers come to consult with Nasreddin Hoca about an issue. After listening to the first man, the Hoca replies:
"You are right."

Then the second man tells his part of the dispute and the Hoca says:
"You are right."

One of the other men that has also come along protests:
"Hoca, that's absurd...they can't both be right!"

To which the Hoca replies:
"You know what? You are also right."

Tim, Yep. Them sales types are good at that you know.... ;)
Andy I assure you that was the real me and not the sales guy talking :) Haven't gotten that used to it yet. :D

;) Efe for President! ;)
Thanks for the endorsement! The change we need ;)

Trevor Hale

10-14-2008, 08:32 AM

That looks like it is definitely getting along nicely Mike. I see some sanding in your horoscope :)

LOL Efe, that would be me, and yes... Lots of sanding :)

Trev

Mr. Midnight

10-14-2008, 08:51 AM

if i may ask what are your going to use for views , will it be monitors or projectors, and what will the maximun space be used for your entire sim.

thanks.........Robert

Trevor Hale

10-14-2008, 09:25 AM

I have 2 Projectors, and the room is about 9 feet wide, and about 20 Feet long.

Should be just how I want it.

Trev

Trevor Hale

10-14-2008, 09:42 AM

:shock: What makes you think I show my friends how insane my hubby is? :p :lol:

I am not Insane.. I am just Mentally challenged:)

Thanks for all your help this weekend :) And Patience :) :) :) Lots and lots of patience.

Tracy Hale

10-14-2008, 09:44 AM

I am not Insane.. I am just Mentally challenged:)

I have no comment on this :roll: :p

Michael Carter

10-14-2008, 10:32 AM

He's fine as long as he doesn't ride the short bus to work. :D

Trevor Hale

10-14-2008, 10:42 AM

Mike, Please define Short!!!!! It isn't very long LMAO..

andarlite

10-14-2008, 11:45 AM

He's fine as long as he doesn't ride the short bus to work. :D

You don't need to take a bus in New Liskeard....it only takes a minute to walk from one end of the town to the other. :-D

Nice work so far Trev..... the 4th one now eh? Are you striving for perfection or is it that you always want to be building?

Regards,
Henry

Tracy Hale

10-14-2008, 11:49 AM

the 4th one now eh? Are you striving for perfection or is it that you always want to be building?

Can I answer this question?? :roll:

andarlite

10-14-2008, 11:55 AM

Can I answer this question?? :roll:

Sure. You will probably come up with a more interesting answer than Trevor's. :)

Regards,
Henry

Tracy Hale

10-14-2008, 12:05 PM

the 4th one now eh? Are you striving for perfection or is it that you always want to be building?

OK here goes MY answer to your question. Yes it's the 4th one and STILL not quite sure what was wrong with the 1st one :roll:

Trev is a perfectionist to some degree. I really can't say I blame him, however, I'd expect him to be a perfectionist if this was something he was trying to get off the ground and fly in the air. Still can't completely fathom why him or anyone needs to build something that doesn't move. You wanna fly, turn your computer on, wheel your chair up to the computer, plug in your joystick and voila, you can fly :D

I support Trev with his project yet at the same time, I think he's completely insane. Short bus? Nope you are right, we don't need them here in New Liskeard LOL! However, I do think he fell off something when he started building his 1st sim.

Trevor Hale

10-14-2008, 12:22 PM

LOL. This is the 4th one, but I think the first 3 were Trials. Each time you rebuild you learn from the previous.

I am certain, that this Shell will be the last one I build, the only way it will come apart is if I need to get it out of my house, and if that is the case, I may elect to rip down the back wall of the basement, and have a crane pull it out.

In any case, I have learned so much, and to reach the level of accuracy I have now, I can say, each build was worth it. Now more importantly I just need to get flying again.

Trev

Efe Cem Elci

10-14-2008, 04:48 PM

...the only way it will come apart is if I need to get it out of my house, and if that is the case, I may elect to rip down the back wall of the basement, and have a crane pull it out.

Hmm... Any thoughts on this, Tracy? :p:p

I think she might elect to host a WCISM get-together with some sledgehammers and take care of getting it out of the house in small pieces instead... ;)

Tracy Hale

10-14-2008, 04:56 PM

Hmm... Any thoughts on this, Tracy? :p:p

I think she might elect to host a WCISM get-together with some sledgehammers and take care of getting it out of the house in small pieces instead... ;)

Efe, I don't need to host a get-together, I could handle taking it out myself....of course it would be in those small pieces you are talking about :mrgreen: :lol:

AndyT

10-14-2008, 05:03 PM

Tracy, My wife says they have medication for the 'mentally challenged'.

Tracy Hale

10-14-2008, 05:56 PM

Tracy, My wife says they have medication for the 'mentally challenged'.

LOL Andy!! Can she tell me the name of it? :D

warvet

10-15-2008, 05:32 AM

Nice work Trev,
It definitely looks better than a box, bet ya cant wait for the sanding part lol Tracy will think shes in a desert sandstorm. Good luck but it does look good.

Tim

Trevor Hale

10-15-2008, 08:39 AM

Thanks Tim, Yeah, I think she will think she is in a sand storm.. She just doesn't realize that she will be the one doing the sanding :)

Thanks again, I am very happy with the result, and it's much better then a box.

Trev