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388TH_A
11-17-2008, 02:26 AM
On the Part list it shows

Capacitors

C2 =220u
C3 =100n
C4,5,6,7 =1u


Resistors

R1,8,9 =220
R2,3,5,6,13 =1k
R4 =47
R7 =220k
R10 =22k
R11 =100
R12 =4k7

But it doesn't say what kind or how many Volts or any thing so does anybody know for sure on which ones to order? Also look like i'm going to be running into the same problem when i try and order the parts for the DO64 PCB or the IO PCB

Jan737
11-17-2008, 02:36 PM
Hi

The resistors are all 1/4 watt types.

The capacitators:
C4,5,6,7 = 1u and C2 =220u
are 63 volt types.

These values you can use for the other pcb's too.


Good luck.


Jan Geurtsen

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 02:58 PM
The R12 =4k7 is that a 4.7 Mohm?



The Capacitors

C2 =220uF 63 volt types but cant seem to find any does anybody know where i can order some? Or would a 50 Volt work i found tons of thoughs?

C3 =100n What is 100n?

C4,5,6,7 =1uF 63 volt types --- same thing here cant find any and also woud a 50 volt work?

Jan737
11-17-2008, 03:02 PM
50 volt is ok.

4K7 ohm means 4700 ohm. The K stand for kilo wich means 1000.
4,7 x 1000 = 4700 ohm.

100n stands for a capacitator of 100 nF, no voltage needed.


Jan

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 03:18 PM
50 volt is ok.

4K7 ohm means 4700 ohm. The K stand for kilo wich means 1000.
4,7 x 1000 = 4700 ohm.

100n stands for a capacitator of 100 nF, no voltage needed.


Jan

Well that makes more since. And for the Capacitors

C2 =220u 50V
C4,5,6,7 =1u 50V
Are both ok

and the C3 =100n is that a Radial or what cant seem to find it as well

Jan737
11-17-2008, 03:46 PM
Yep both.
Use a radial type for the capacitators.
Where are you looking for the parts?
They are very common.

Jan

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 03:48 PM
i live here in the US and i found this website to have almost all the parts that i needed and for cheap. http://www.futurlec.com thats unless you know of a cheaper web sight hint hint lol

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 03:51 PM
have you made any FSBUS your self? if so do you have any pics of your setup

Jan737
11-17-2008, 03:53 PM
I think this is what you are looking for:

C100UC - .1uF 50V Ceramic Capacitors




.1 uf is the same as 100nF.



Jan

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 03:54 PM
also i cant seem to find a 4Mhz Resonator or a ZF 3.9 Diode.... what does the ZF or the 3.9 mean?

Jan737
11-17-2008, 03:56 PM
I have made most of the FSbus pcb's myself.
Use it for several years now.Works stable.



Jan

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 03:58 PM
I think this is what you are looking for:

C100UC - .1uF 50V Ceramic Capacitors




.1 uf is the same as 100nF.



Jan

LOL but you dont know for sure if there the same or not? AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP SO FAR

Jan737
11-17-2008, 03:59 PM
ZF3.9 means Zener diode 3,9 volt

Futurlec :<TABLE cellSpacing=0 width="95%" border=1><TBODY><TR vAlign=center><FORM action=http://www.futurlec.com/cgi-bin/redicart/smart.cgi?command=add method=post><TD bgColor=#ffffff>1N748</TD><TD bgColor=#ffffff>1N748 3.9V 400mW Zener Diodes</TD></FORM></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<TABLE width="95%" border=1><TBODY><TR><FORM action=http://www.futurlec.com/cgi-bin/redicart/smart.cgi?command=add method=post><TD bgColor=#9ff1c8>RESON4M0</TD><TD bgColor=#9ff1c8>4.0MHz Ceramic Resonator</TD></FORM></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Jan

Jan737
11-17-2008, 04:01 PM
LOL but you dont know for sure if there the same or not? AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP SO FAR



They are the same.
Take a look at the internet on how the tables are.
From farad to mfarad --> uF --> nf --> pf etc.

Jan

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 04:04 PM
:o THATS SO STUPID I LOOKED EVERY WHERE ON THE WEB SIGHT AND COULDNT FIND IT..... but i guess i didnt LOOK every where after all.... LOL thanks your a big help

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 04:06 PM
o ok thanks.. i dont know alot about making my own circuit board but it comes easy to me so i wanted to try and make one

Jan737
11-17-2008, 04:08 PM
You have to work very precise, shorts are made easily and malfunction your pcb.

If you need any assitance let me know.

Jan

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 04:15 PM
sure thing but i was going to try and make my boards from the prototyping boards with single holes like the Experimenters Board Large - Phenolic http://www.futurlec.com/ProtoBoards.shtml seems like that would work. and also seems like a PCB would cost alot and im not sure on how to do that

388TH_A
11-17-2008, 04:20 PM
I thought about using bread boards first to make sure every thing works first then move every thing over to a prototype board

Jan737
11-18-2008, 10:58 AM
I thought about using bread boards first to make sure every thing works first then move every thing over to a prototype board


I'm not sure about that.
I think the pcb's are to complex for using breadboards.
Mistakes are made easily.
I'm using the original pcb's for that.


Jan

388TH_A
11-18-2008, 06:03 PM
sounds like it would cost alot to have a PCB made for me and on top of that i dont even know how i would be able to send the specs to a company for them to make one any ways... do you know? other wise im going to use a prototype board and solder every thing. and pray that i traced all the lines right...

rjfon1
11-19-2008, 01:53 AM
G'Day 388th.
Regarding Futurlec, their prices can't be beaten. I live in Australia and use them regularly. Generally they have most parts in stock, but occasionally you have to wait for a back-order.
Regarding the PCBs, you can get them from Rob Van Dijk at:
http://www.rvdijk.nl/index.htm

Most of the website is in dutch, but you'll get to know everything because the board names are in English. One thin to remember is that Rob's boards are Not drilled, which gets frustrating when you have to drill a IO, DO64, Display boards. He does however also have 7 segment LEDs, programmed chips and rotary encoders. Very pleasant man to deal with. Double sided boards are about 14Euro (18USD), but remember you need very fine drill bits and an accurate bench drill.

Check his prices and stock at:
http://www.rvdijk.nl/stock.htm

You can download the info including Layout files from:
http://www.rvdijk.nl/pcb.htm

If you want to go the Futurlec path, go to:
http://futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml

Most boards are about 100mm x 160mm single or double sided. It does instant quoting. I put in 100x160 single sided-$26USD for the first and 11.20 for each other. For dble sided, $41USD, and $16 thereafter. They are drilled and I just got 6 stepper boards, which are very fine lined, but the quality was first rate. 12 Day turnaround. You need to give them the gerber and drill files.
Regards,
Rob.
Melbourne Australia (Not Florida)

rjfon1
11-19-2008, 01:57 AM
Sorry, I forgot to mention, the last time I ordered $MHz resonators, they were the 2 pin type which you can't use. You need the 3pin.
Regards,
Rob.

388TH_A
11-19-2008, 11:22 AM
NICE thank you so much that would make it easy to just order it from him. well i sent a email to order stuff so well see how it goes and also im glad you know about futurlec because i wasnt sure yet if they were a real company yet.