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NNomad007
11-17-2008, 10:16 AM
Ok guys, i know that are allways questions regarding bus colors, so ill give my contribute away:

Ive matched with hardware a real airbus panel, and the most realistic color you can find in the market for an airbus panel would be NCS (natural color system) 5020B.. i would say its 95% close to the real panel one.

Cheers

Alex

Efe Cem Elci
11-17-2008, 10:20 AM
I remember Phil telling me in Lelystad that even in the real aircraft, the various panels have slightly different coloring and even different finishes (mat vs. shiny) because they are produced by different companies.

NNomad007
11-17-2008, 10:32 AM
That is true Efe, even airbus allows small color changes to suit customer's choices.. though, the colors are almost identical. But the true is that i never seen a panel that would make a complete justice to the famous "airbus" color, i think this one is a great approach to something you would expect to find in real Airbus.. Im gonna use smi-gloss eggshell latex painting...mat versus Shinny, well, they usually test them because of light reflexion effects, I think the newest airbus layout its a lot more mat, being the oldest ones more shinny coated (the MIP for example) Anyway..its a personal sugestion based in some real life experience, and a real airbus part.. i hope it helps!..but remenber..its the PANEL color.. the MIP is identical, but pedestal and sidestickareas are slightly different...

Cheers.

Alex

Alex

dnoize
11-17-2008, 10:38 AM
phil is TOTALLY right.

There ARE differences in color/finish, etc even in BRANDNEW machines.

Same goes for boeing....

People here spend alot of time searching for THE airbus or THE boeing colour (and there's nothing wrong with perfectionism (hi phil ;-) ) ....

But there is no boeing or airbus colour. Sure there's a code for it. But even if you order 2 cans of the same colour code from the original manufacturer, you will see slight changes in tint.

But: Its always nice to come close to the 'correct colour' ...so in that respect: Thanks for the colour code (for all the bus builders that is) :-)


I allways tell people that if they want their flightdeck to look real authentic, they need:
* at least 3 different shades of panels
* chip some paint of some panels
* spill alot of coffee on parts we wouldnt usually want to spill coffee on.
* throw around breadcrumbs everywhere....
* give fungus a chance (especially in a 737)
* collect dust everywhere.
* place footprints at the most convenient places

:-)

Stef

NNomad007
11-17-2008, 10:42 AM
:)

Lose hairs......you can see a lot of those....... smokes ash..(you gotta trust me on that one)..and probably somethings we shouldnt even go there..;)

cheers Stef!

Alex

dnoize
11-17-2008, 11:43 AM
:)

Lose hairs......you can see a lot of those....... smokes ash..(you gotta trust me on that one)..and probably somethings we shouldnt even go there..;)



hahaha my lips are sealed......

...now where's my mile high club pin ;-)

Stef

Efe Cem Elci
11-17-2008, 02:42 PM
Sorry Alex, didn't mean for my message to sound like I didn't appreciate the information you shared. Of course, we love every bit of information we can get our hands on. I just wanted to make sure people knew that variation is common and inevitable even in the real aircraft, like Stef also mentioned.

Michael Carter
11-17-2008, 02:50 PM
I have at least three different colors of Boeing gray on my real panels so picking out a gray for the instrument panel was no big deal.

I think it's Krylon Rust Tuff Battleship Grey. On the seat and the yoke I used a ceramic paint from Dupli-Color called New Ford Gray.

I think the throttle has the Krylon.

The shell is painted with an oil based paint that was color mixed from the cap off of a can of spray primer. I took it over to the girl and asked for a "quart of this color" as I handed the can of spray primer to her. :D

NNomad007
11-18-2008, 05:06 AM
hahaha my lips are sealed......

...now where's my mile high club pin ;-)

Stef

Coming throughhh!!!. (and a well diserved one i may say)

Alex

NNomad007
11-18-2008, 05:08 AM
Sorry Alex, didn't mean for my message to sound like I didn't appreciate the information you shared.

Not at all Efe!.. :) i didnt took it that way.. no worries mate!.. ill be posting everybit of info i get my hands on!

cheers

Alex

NNomad007
11-18-2008, 05:09 AM
I took it over to the girl and asked for a "quart of this color" as I handed the can of spray primer to her. :D

Im glad you weren't painting an A-10 railgun...:)

Alex

phil744
11-18-2008, 01:15 PM
People here spend alot of time searching for THE airbus or THE boeing colour (and there's nothing wrong with perfectionism (hi phil ;-) ) ....



Oi!! hehehe

It is true, the first mistake i ever made when producing panels was to try and get the color matched perfectly, I remembered when i got my first genuine 767 part, i copied it, i could not tell the difference, i got another genuine boeing bit, different colour again, you just end up chacing your own tail, now im doing a few 777 bits that is a completly different color!! arghhhh!!!

Airbus is a little better, there are less panel produces for the real aircraft, Vibrachoc, sirio and a few honeywell bits and i think thats it, boeing have 14 or so different panels produced by different companys, hence the bigger difference, also with airbus MIP and other parts are masterbatched plastic not paint.

Also keep in mind the base coat you are using, you may think your paint is matched perfectly until you paint it on somthing black then it appears different.

So dont get hung up on the perfect paint mach, personally i think paint texture is just as important as colour, if you think your paint is a 95% match, its good enough for the real aircraft

NNomad007
11-19-2008, 04:44 AM
you just end up chacing your own tail, now im doing a few 777 bits that is a completly different color!! arghhhh!!!.............

.........So dont get hung up on the perfect paint mach, personally i think paint texture is just as important as colour, if you think your paint is a 95% match, its good enough for the real aircraft

Totally agree!.. in fact, the panels seem to get more realistic the more you mess up with them, offering a not so gentle approach ..(real chips off....dirt stains.... ) and..as painfull as it may sounds..in a very real approach, they DO like the "rough treatment" !..so..feel free to mess things up..:) And indeed the texture is very important, im almost getting insane trying to recriate the "orange skin" type of coating that you find on airbus MIP's.... i used silica poweder, different brushes, sand..........................................................etc...etc...etc... it looks good...but not all that good..(i guess it never will...).. im trying now oil based smi-gloss paint with a simple soft brush...and its working pretty good i think..

Any ideas?...

Cheers Phil

Alex

phil744
11-19-2008, 06:59 AM
The Airbus MIP is a tricky part in regards to texture, it looks to me to be a MT-11100 spark erode finish, have you tried applying the paint using a sponge and "dabbing it", that should get close