More measurement frustration

[orwell84]

Hello,

I'm having trouble mating the front windshield to the glareshield. There are so many measurements to respect and when I get one right, it means other measurements are off.

From what I understand the height of the center pillar is 96cm from the floor. The bottom frames of the front windshield are 84 cm long each and about 95 cm from the floor at the end opposite the central pillar.

I can easily respect these measurements, but I'm not sure where the winshield should be positioned in relation to the glareshield. I am thinking that in my simulator it is too far foward.

Anybody have a some reference points that would help me properly position the windshield in relation to theglareshield?

Many thanks for the help.

[Michael Carter]

It might help if we knew what you were building! ;)

[orwell84]

The space shuttle...

No that's not right...737

Thanks

[Carlos Corona]

Hi...i hope my pictures help to you:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa309/modelatino/HPIM2093.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa309/modelatino/HPIM2088.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa309/modelatino/sim14.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa309/modelatino/GlareshieldPlan.jpg

my reference for place the windshield began from mip glareshield. it measure 460mm from mcp lights cover to main window post..and its all..

[ian@737ng.co.uk]

carlos this is exactly how i built my windshield/glareshield top. it's a great idea. thanks for the dimensions, i'm sure they are going to be useful to a lot of people, i had to be 'artistic' with the angles/dimensions, but i got there in the end. upload the dimension image so it's available to everybody. well done - looking GOOD!
regards to everybody..... ian

[orwell84]

Many thanks,

I think I can make this to work. My glareshield is not triangular in the middle but the width of the MCP from end to end. I followed a different set of plans for the glare. I have seen a number of them built like this . But I think I can make it work.

Thanks again.

[orwell84]

Just another quick question.

Could the front edge of the glareshield actually be above the bottom of the front window glass? (ie glare shield edge above window frame).

This screenshot got me thinking.

Thanks.

[Michael Carter]

It is on the 727. I'd imagine it's the same on most Boeings.

[tomenglish2000]

Dont know about the 737 but the 767 MCP is higher than the bottom of the glass. Which by extension means that the 757 and 777 are too because they have the same nose section.

[tomenglish2000]

Actually better clarify what is "front".
If you mean the bit of the glare where it meets the glass then I am not too sure, but the MCP side of the glare is certainly above the level of the bottom of the glass.

[orwell84]

I am referring to the edge of the glareshield that meets the window glass. The screenshot I'm referring to is from FSX. (Somehow it didn't get posted.) It looks as though it is above the bottom of the window glass (ie. lower window frame is not visible.

Thanks

[orwell84]

OK,

Here is the screen shot I was referring to. Hope this clarifies things.

[tomenglish2000]

Here are two views of the glare from the outside of the cockpit.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Transavia-Airlines/Boeing-737-7K2/0788120/L/

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Gol-Transportes-Aereos/Boeing-737-76Q/0741194/L/

On the second one in particular you can see that the glare sits just below the level of the front windows. This makes sense as you want as much window as possible. The grey around the windows in the outside views is the black area on the very bottom of the windows in this picture

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Gol-Transportes-Aereos/Boeing-737-76N/0845844/L/

Hope this helps.

Tom.

[orwell84]

Thanks very much for the photos.

I am probably agonizing a bit much over these, but here is what I have come up with for measurements. I am hoping I am in the ballpark.

Overhang MIP face to front MCP panel -26 cm
MCP face to back of center window post 42 cm
Height of window post from flight deck floor-100 cm
Front of MIP face to back of center window post 16 cm

I am trying to use Juan Cordon's exterior shell measurements. I will have to add about 4 cm to the window heights to accomodate my MIP stand. It all looks a bit crude, but I wanted to rough it out before making it pretty.

Do these measurements sound ok?

BTW, I was using Markus Pilot's measuremnts, but his site is no longer working. Are these files available somewhere else? They are said to be quite accurate.

Thanks

[orwell84]

It was only in trying to build the glareshield/windshield that I figured out where I was going wrong. It wasn't a measurement issu, but just a wrong assumption about how it went together.

Thanks again