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armageddon aviator
05-09-2009, 08:53 AM
Hi

I am contemplating the building of a generic GA cockpit and just discovered this website.

I am going to use Reality XP gauges with a 22" monitor.

I am seeking Autocad / Coreldraw drawings for a cockpit that would be compatible with this kind of setup (Yoke's shaft sticking out from underneath the LCD monitor [gauges] ).

Thanks in advance for your advice and guidance.

All the best

Alon

Trevor Hale
05-09-2009, 09:25 AM
Hey Alon, Welcome to MyCockpit. Sounds like you have one heck of a good project planned. The RealityXP set is a great way to get started.

Best regards,

Trev

Matt Olieman
05-09-2009, 10:30 AM
Hi Alon, welcome aboard, you'll find a lot of useful help here. Good luck on your project and please keep us up to date as your project progresses.

Matt Olieman

jlp71
05-10-2009, 11:49 AM
I just read your post and it seems like we are building the same kind if simulator. I also use 22" monitors. I have a simple pdf plan in my thread. http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15880

Best regards

Johannes

ran56
05-10-2009, 02:10 PM
Shalom Alon,
Welcome onboad :)

If you need local support, you can find me over
the mental institue for the cockpit builders over the VATIL forums, and of cource here as well 8-)

Ran.

armageddon aviator
05-10-2009, 02:47 PM
Hi Ran

Thanks for your offer - I appreciate it.

Can you provide some info regarding Autocad drawings for a generic (single engine) cockpit ?

As I already mentioned, I intend to use a 22" LCD monitor for the gauges, hence, the Yoke's shaft will be protruding under the LCD (gauges) monitor.

Any ideas ?

ran56
05-10-2009, 03:20 PM
Well with generic it's a bit complicated.
As generic can be for light A/C or heavies.
EFIS or Analogs ...
Which is type of generic you're aiming for ?

armageddon aviator
05-10-2009, 04:55 PM
Hello again

Well, I'm aiming for a typical single engine cockpit layout.

Nothing fancy, old fashioned "steam gauges", a Saitek yoke and throttle, a few Go Flight Modules..that's about it.

I fly a C-172 N but wouldn't mind settling for an Archer / Bonanza / Warrior / Cherokee, etc...

Does it help ?

ran56
05-12-2009, 03:19 AM
Hi Alon,
Well I would google for those drawings.
Here something I found, see if this helps.

http://mycessnasim.blogspot.com/2007/03/cessna-172-panels.html

Also dig around in Mycockpit file archive, flightsim and Avsim forums.

As I build a B76'er, so never looked for drawings for the GA.
I'm sure there are some around.

Do you need this drawings so you can machine them in CNC ?

If you can't find drawings and you are going generic, and you are going
to hand made them, this is what I would do.
As I think you have accessibility to the GA community and real AC,
take a meter, sit in the cockpit and measure the gauges and instruments
you want to have in your pit + glare shield etc.
write all down.
Sit at your desk make a drawing, does not have to be 1:1 to just to give you
general look.
Set them so they will fit on a 22" LCD.
Buy the material you will use for the instruments panel, wood is the easiest
when no CNC routers or laser cutter for metal work on hand.
Draw on the wood the gauges and instruments you want to have,
the with jigsaw, cut the holes, including the hole for the yoke.

After you finish with paint and positioning of the LCD behind the MIP,
you're set to start and play with the positioning of the gauges on the LCD.
When you reach that point, I will help you with that (that's the easy part ;)

Now here is an example of a B747 pit building in progress.
believe me, no coreldraw, autocad or any Fancy drawing.
2 hrs of sweat sitting in a real B744 pit on a hot winter day without AC.

http://imgsrv.pic4u.co.il/2/531/26f8f585196b42f88485536b84b3b99e99.jpg

Hope this helps in some way :)
Cheers,

armageddon aviator
05-12-2009, 06:43 AM
Hi Ran

Thanks again for the advice.

I already downloaded the C-172 drawings from the site you mentioned.

As you probably noticed, the C-172 has a couple of gauges located on each side of the yoke's shaft.
That's not good if you are going to use a 22" monitor (would be hard to stick a yoke through the monitor...)

I do intend to use a CNC / Laser Cut for an aluminum panel.

Autocad drawings are absolutely necessary if you want to use that kind of technology.

I might be tempted to reproduce the C-172 panel and ditch the 2 gauges on each side of the yoke...I can always relocate the tachometer on the panel - as for the ADF, I wouldn't even bother to use that crap...in real flight I use the ADF to listen to AM radio...that's about the only use I can think of for this totally obsolete piece of equipment.

I can't even think of a decent reason why they're still teaching how to use it...it has to do with tradition I guess...

Thanks for your offer

Alon

ran56
05-12-2009, 07:27 AM
Hi Alon,
Regarding drawing, I can't add more the searching the web.

Regarding ADF, it's still being used in the commercial aviation.
One example is Arnem1S dep out of AMS.
You have a radial intercept of NV NDB to take to IVLUT.
In Israel you have the LL.

Fly B742 and you will know why they are still being used :)

armageddon aviator
05-12-2009, 08:59 AM
Hi

Yeah, I am fully aware there are still ADF procedures around...

This is an anachronism in itelf - I expect those things to be phased out pretty soon.

If I remember well, the FAA decided to stop maintaining the NDB ground transmitters - once it breaks down - that's the end of it...

The FAA also decided to cease maintaining the LORAN C system for the same reason.

When you've got WAAS GPS and VOR, the other systems are pretty useless...

I do not intend to fly a 744 anytime soon...I like "seat of the pants" flying the old fashioned way...:)

Take care

ran56
05-13-2009, 01:54 AM
Hi Alon,
I didn't say fly 744, I said 742 ;)
Take the RFP V2 for a ride in the sim, low payload, ARNEM1S
See if you can maintain restriction of altitude and speed, while
sticking to the SID :twisted::twisted: