737-800 Build in Oslo

[nax228]

Hi there simmers!
It's about time I present my project on mycockpit.org. I have a post at the norwegian flightsim.no forum, but that won't reach you folks ;)
I had a version 1.0 of a 737 cockpit, but from last september I decided to "go large".

From my v.1.0 project I had already taken the decision to use FlightDeckSoftware as my cockpitsoftware.
My first main buy was a MIP and I finally ended up buying a cockpitsonic DUAL seat trainer, FTD. It was only two weeks old, but the former owner had cancelled his project before receiving the MIP, so it was to consider as new.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/mip_001.jpg

Next up I got a good deal on a more or less complete pedestal equipped with CPFlight radios and cockpitsonic panels.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/14102009.jpg

From the first project I already had a CPFlight MCP and EFIS.

I jumped on a introduce price on a complete overhead panel set from www.simworld.pl. The quality is absolutely great.
Earlier this year I bought a OH frame from an old *REAL* aircraft, but have only started the work to set it up. It's one of the goals for the winter.
Electronics, mastercards ++ for the OH is Opencockpits with interface-cards from www.simcockpitshop.de.
Here is a few shots while testplacing the panels in the rig i made for the process:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/09052010144.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/24052010195.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/24052010189.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/24052010191.jpg

To get a room to place the sim I needed to tare down some walls and making a new kitchen, new walls etc. but it was OK. I needed a new kitchen anyway.
The room is quite small, but i thought I could make a decent sim on 1,90mX2,70m. It requires a few special solutions, but I think it's just about enough.

A flightdeck needs a flightdeck door, and lucky me got one from Nottingham, UK.
I had made the dooropening to the Simroom quite narrow and a little extra space was needed to get the MIP in there without taking it apart.
So what once looked like this:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/13032010087.jpg

Became with a bil of plaser ++ to this:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/01042010114.jpg

That again with a little help from this:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/DSC00014.jpg

..And some aluprofiles, became this:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/01052010124.jpg

I needed some kind of platform to place the sim on to be able to give room for mechanics for yoke and pedals under the floor, so I built it in 3 modules. Measurements has nothing to do with *REAL* measurements, but to my little cave.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/base123.jpg

The setup now runs 4 computers, but a fifth is on standby. Dont know what i will use it for, but I guess it will put to work sooner or later.
I have used a old kitchen cabinet for the 4 desktop PCs that run the software. We all hate the cable spaghetti, so I made a little box on the side of the cabinet and the same om the base behind the MIP.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/01042010108.jpg

I got some plans for the dual-pedal setup and started the work before the summer, but vacation put it to a hold. I'll pick it up again in the fall.
Pedals were bought from Jacarta, Indonesia:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/31052010219.jpg

TQ was ordered from Revolution-simproducts last fall, and finally came yesterday.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/02082010.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/02082010002.jpg

I have also made a solution with mirrored projection that works well for now, but haven't taken pics of this part. Will do it tonight maybe... but TQ first.
The sim is taking shape, and with the new TQ in place I really look forward to the next flight. I will hopefully start to set up the TQ tonight, but I'm not sure it's a one night job.

So far it looks something like this:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/02082010003.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/02082010004.jpg


More to come...

[ian@737ng.co.uk]

oh mother :o you are well on your way now Nax,
this is looking very sweet. well done and look forward to hearing more on your progress...
regards from wales ...

ian

[Jordan Farmer]

blimey charlie, your doing well! You must be dedicated to not only fork out all that cash in one go but to rip down walls and replace your kitchen just for a sim! now THATS what i call dedication, i envy you :p

Regards,

Jordan

[choffmann]

That´s a big deal for a start! Congratulations, nax. Did you experience difficulties integrating Flightdeck-software with your hardware components from cockpitsonic?
Your flightdeck entry is a marvel. I am looking forward to see your progress.
BTW, isn´t it a shame they closed Fornebu? I very much appreciated the approach from the south with a large left turn over Oslo.

Cheers
Chris

[nax228]

choffmann: I have FMC and one of the EFIS from OCand now also two OC cards in the TQ.
First i bought was the FMC.With the suplied script from flightdecksoftware I only had to alter one of the keys in the SIOC script then it worked perfect.
Next out was the EFIS and that one works just by choosing the autoinstall in a OC program called Ssetup (yes, two s's in the begining)
The problem came when i merged the scripts. I fudged it up really bad, then the summer showed up. This is clearly my lousy SIOC skills and not the hardwares fault.

I have to read up on SIOC. I understand that this piece of software can do a lot of nice things for us builders, even though all i do with it for the time beeing is screwing things up.

[nax228]

A few pics from tonights testing and configuration of the TQ.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/07082010028.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/07082010020.jpg

About the mirrored projection, it looks something like this.Projector mounted over the projected pic on the wall:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/07082010030.jpg
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Via a mirror set to corect angle
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/07082010031.jpg


Result seen above.

The 4 machines for system simulation in the *IKEA kitchen rack*:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/07082010025.jpg

More testing needed

[fsaviator]

Nax...

outstanding work!

Warren

[B763]

Looks very nice. Btw you wrote:

"Pedals were bought from Jacarta, Indonesia"

Was it kind of aircraft graveyard?

[nax228]

"Pedals were bought from Jacarta, Indonesia"

Was it kind of aircraft graveyard?

Contact fly_ab here on mycockpit:
http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/member.php/437-Fly_AB

[nax228]

MIP light test:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/19082010050.jpg

...if only there was a way to get those cockpitsonic sixpacks to speak togheter with FlightDeckSoftware.

[Anderson/SBSP]

Wow!!! I love this photo!!!

[choffmann]

It´s nice to drive a 737 cabriolet in the summer time,.....
Just kidding.
You did a marvelous job, Nax.

[KLM077]

Cool cockpit!

Cheers

Bas
KLM077

[nax228]

Thanx thanx guys!
I have made a sketch of my system setup. Have altered it many times, but this is how it looks like today:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/TypicalFDSsetup-5.jpg

[HondaCop]

Looking AWESOME, Nax!!! I'm starting to look at your work for inspiration and ideas! =) Besides the fact that I have shown your pics to my oldest son and wife, in an attempt to lobby for a very "nice Christmas present" from them soon! HAHAHA

Do you have a link to that throttle's website?
What OS are you using?

[nax228]

Hi E
TQ is from http://www.revolution-simproducts.com/

Regarding system, I'm using WIN7 on the FS computer and XP-SP3 on the smaller ones for system simulation.
Good idea to start lobbying for x-mas by now:D

[HondaCop]

Hi E
TQ is from http://www.revolution-simproducts.com/

Regarding system, I'm using WIN7 on the FS computer and XP-SP3 on the smaller ones for system simulation.
Good idea to start lobbying for x-mas by now:D

Hi Nax,

Hmmmm I guess there are no problems with networking amongst different OSs? My main FS PC already has FSX installed, so I guess I can go with XP on my other PCs, since they don't have the horsepower as my main PC.

[nax228]

No problem hooking up a network with different OSs.
About horsepower in PC: Check out my new CPU from Boeing :D
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/BoeingPC.jpg

[HondaCop]

LMAO hahaha

[Nick1150]

Great Job Nax... you did a great start ;)

I am few steps behind... DST from cockpitsonic too, making a research right now for a full pedestal, 2 seats and possibly a TQ... will have news soon :D

Keep on posting !!!!

[nax228]

Big boys want big toys. Last delivery was simply to big for my mailbox:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/IPECO2.jpg

Soon to be installed in the cockpit:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/IPECO1.jpg

There was some mixup in shipment and rails was not in the package. Looking into fabricating a set and I think thats possible to achieve.

[choffmann]

Congrats, Nax228, for that big catch! They look as new! Very, very nice.

[HondaCop]

Outstanding nax! Can you do me a quick favor. Can you measure the width, height and length of the metal base of the seats? I have a pair of car seats coming in on Saturday and I need to fabricate the base where the seats will sit on. Thanks! Oh, and enjoy your new acquisition, they look fabulous!

[nax228]

Well, it's a quite complicated structure if I'm to measure all the parts, but the footprint of the base measure 34,5 x 43,5 cm.
The height is adjustable, so no need to measure that one, but make it so the eyeposition is about right. You are supposed to look straight down the glareshield and over your yoke to see the whole PFD/ND.
If your cockpit measure up correct, this should give you a 15 deg downward and 18 deg upward view troughout the window... approx

Good luck transforming your carseats.

[HondaCop]

Thanks for the info, Nax!!! Really appreciate it. BTW, here is a shot of the seats I was able to obtain. These will be delivered on Saturday and I really like the way they look.

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[Nick1150]

Big boys want big toys. Last delivery was simply to big for my mailbox
Great delivery Nax !!!!!!!!

Can you please tell us about the seats ?

Where did you buy them from ?

Possible details, etc ?

Thanks

Nick

[nax228]

Well, whats there to tall about some seats? hehe
They're in very good shape and all functions seems to work.
No really, I don't know what to tell about them. wierd question, but thats OK.

I bought them from desert-air in California.

[nax228]

There is something missing in the cockpit... It got this airbus feeling sitting without a solid column in front of me.
Started last winter to weld a construction for dual yoke setup, but it got to wide and project was given forward to a friend with a few extra centimeters with on MIP.
So now it was time to do something serious about the lack of controlyokes and I was happy to find a deal on two complete yokes with column that had not been cut, only dismantled from a aircraft. Capt+f/o of course.
Package being sent from Chicago to Oslo today I guess, so it will be about a week or so before FedEx gives me a call.
Looking forward to get these babies home. I know it will take some hours in the metalshop to get them ready to use, but it will be a joy.
Got the plans sketched up, but need to see and measure them *IRL* to get all details right.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/col1.jpg

base detail:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/col1detail.jpg

[Nick1150]

Hehehehe

Nice going Nax ;)

8-)

[nax228]

I added some light yesterday. Installed 3 dimmers for LED and started first testing for flood-, Main Panel- and backlighting.
Besides the backlighting, the others I was so pleased with that they will be left in present state. Pics maybe won't show it as good, but the result was very satisfying.
I will order the next 3 dimmers today and continue on F/O side and pedestal. OH is still in a few hundred pieces.

I took the pics in a pitch black room, only the LED i installed.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/10102010140.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/10102010135.jpg

This last one is from the backlighting. I have to experiment some more with these.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/10102010137.jpg

[nax228]

More toys arrived today. Ill get back with more when building this linked setup starts.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/19102010171.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/19102010172.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/19102010173.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/19102010174.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/19102010175.jpg
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http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/19102010176.jpg

[fsaviator]

Nice... Nax, that is awesome!

[nax228]

They're gonna' be awsome anyway ;) As I see it, the adaption to FSX will be no problem. Looking sooo forward to start the work.

[Nick1150]

Wowwwww that's fantastic !!!!

Keep us posted ;)

[castle]

Nice, if you have a plan, great. If you're looking for ideas, options, pitfalls or some info on control loading, give a holler.

Been there, done it....

[nax228]

Holy cr**!! That setup needs a explanation.
Do you have a post or a website with some pics and in writing what you've done?

I have now had a good look at the mechanics on one of the yokes, and a plan is slowly starting to form, but in my head it looks "kinda' different" from what you show here.
I guess you have added some cool features with all those chains ++ so please let me know what you have done here.

[Anderson/SBSP]

Excelent parts and job!! Congrats!!

[castle]

Okay, I can do that.

There is no website, but give me a few days to round up some pics and I'll explain the setup as well as the control loading. We did this a few years back and will have to dig around to find more pics.

JW

[castle]

as per the request from nax, here is some more info on the setup
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Here is a pic of the captain's side with the floor boards removed. One constraint was to keep the floor height to a minimum. so we have about 10" (25.4cm) to work with from the slab to the cabin floor. Another constraint was the height of the lever arm to the actuator, but we'll cover that later when discussing the control loading and autopilot

4365

This is a closeup of the connection with the top of the cradle support removed

We machined a toothed piece, the silver colored disc, to mate with the column and it acts as the load bearing part that fits into the cradle. You need the pressure C clamp to draw the pieces together. A large hollow tube was welded to the piece and a similar arrangement was done on the copilot's side to interconnect the columns. You need to be careful here to make certain each piece is correctly welded as to rotational position, otherwise your columns will be misaligned in the vertical. Easiest way to do that, simply attach the machined parts to each of the columns, insert the tube in each end, lay the assembly on the shop floor, brace as desired, and weld away. :-)

4366

This is the rotary pot to provide column position. It is a high precision pot (20K) and requires 3 rotations for full scale. Would have preferred a complete rotary connection to the tube to provide a linear scale end-to-end. Using the lever arm was a compromise and works reasonably well. The largest non-linearity occurs with the column full aft. If you ever get there this is the least of your problems ;-)

The pot is connected to a high res a2d converter that provides 12 bits of accuracy and provides 100,000 samples per second for up to eight channels. The gearing ratio to the pot provides a column resolution of 0.02 degrees per bit. Why 12 bits and the high sampling rate?? You'll need that when it comes time for designing and operating the PID controller to do control loading as well as moving the controls in response to A/P commands....

Next report will cover the roll axis, this is a bit more complicated.... stay tuned

JW

[nax228]

Hola!
Long time since last update, but I have done this and that since last time.
Lately I've been working more om the backlighting. The problem with pulsating LEDs was caused by a poor power source. I have picked up a PC power unit (145W) to run all diodes and the lower EICAS screen that also run on 12V.
To google the leds I have used for MIP and pedestal, go to ebay and search for "Warm White 5M 500CM 3528 SMD LED Strip Light 300 leds". Bought my second roll today and payed 1,25$.
Here is a few pics on how I hooked up the pedestal.

The LED have tape/glue thet stick quite well. I have used some foam thingy that came with my RevSim TQ, and cut those so they fit inbetwen the walls inside pedestal.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/14112010216.jpg

Wires coming out of the back on some panels. Ledstrips won't move.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/14112010217.jpg

When all panels iscovered, it looks somethinglike this:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/14112010218.jpg

I also hooked up the backlight power for the TQ at the end of the last LED strip, sonow the TQ is dimable as well. Really needed that last thing, cuz the LEDs in the TQ was to bright only hooked up to the power.
The last pic doesnt show it by far as well as it looks, but take my word. Besides some leaks betwen panels it looks really great.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/14112010220.jpg

[Nick1150]

That's great Nax !!!!!

So the TQ foam was needed after all :)

Hey keep posting pics ;)

[nax228]

Hehe.. THey were so nice I just couldn't throw them all away, and finally I found use for some.

I Havent posted any pics of the chairs mounted in the cockpit. Here is a pic that show the seats in place and at the same time show how tight fit the sim is in my room. If i'm to put on more weight now, I have to send my son behind the MIP when it's needed :D

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/DSC_0217.jpg

This other pic is when trying on the homemade rails for the first time. Fit like a glow.
Rails made by my good friend K. He's got a full cockpit as well and is very very handy.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/DSC_0221.jpg

Have a nice weekend!

[nax228]

Lets light up the sixpacks....

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/02122010257.jpg

Took over a year to find out why they wouldn't work. Turned out to be a couple of cables connected upside down.

[Anderson/SBSP]

Wow!! Very nice!!

[Nick1150]

OOOOO yeaaaaaaa :D

That's nice, just in time before you light up the Xmas tree !!!!!

Hey Nax,

Wait for more news during the following days about the cockpitsonic DST... something is happening in that field ;) hopefully we will have news during the next week :)

[Jan Pemöller]

Hey Nax,

you have a great project, congrats! I like your door ;-)
Will you tell me more about your rails solutions.
I have two old crew seats from a 707 and it is nearly impossible to find rails for it.

Regards
Jan

[nax228]

Hi there.
When I bought my chairs from desert-air, they said it would come with rails, but they didn't. As I understand, many others have not got their promised rails as well.
I have a good friend that have a great workshop for metal, wood and nylon. He made me some rails after I made some sketches.
I have been unable to upload pics to my photobucket account with this new company PC, but made a Picasa account today to finally be able to share some stuff again. Sorry it took so long.

I use sketchup for all my drawing:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TRCfOf1HQcI/AAAAAAAAABI/wLRz8ZvN-vs/s912/rail.jpg

Here is a pic that show that the rails were built with 3 pieces of metal:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TRCj5kUkIfI/AAAAAAAAABs/4utxgZZqLpE/DSC00885.JPG

I should have a few more pics. Ill have a look for them now that I know I can share them.

[JWS]

Are you planning on J-rails?

Any idea about the costs?

JWS

[nax228]

I will install my new yokes in a few weeks, and plan to take the seatrails to level 2 in the same operation since they have to be removed for a while anyway.
Here is the plan to get the sideways movement without having the actual J-rails (they are EXPENCIVE)
I will moult my rails on a pair of rails going the other direction and make a J in my MDF base. A bolt/pin from the seats wil go into the J securing that the sideways movement cannot be done unless the seat is in full back position. The J in the MDF will have nylon along the sides.
Hope and think this will work.

Cost will be equal to 0$
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TRCpOe5EIwI/AAAAAAAAAB8/w1n-8Yg5rWc/s912/xrails_simple.jpg

[Jordan Farmer]

Thats a very good idea, and should, in theory, work perfectly fine! Good luck with it anyway!

[nax228]

Got started with the dual yoke assembly last night, but need to extend the center rod. It turned out 3,5 cm to short, so I have done some bad measuring in the preproject.
That beside, it works and seem good.
Time will show if my idea on single point pulling gas strut works out well. Here you see the assembly on top of the basemodule it will be mounted in.
Holes will be cut today and I'll start with the wiering. Since the midsetion have to be redone, I will get a week or two delay.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSMyqU9BY1I/AAAAAAAAAEU/59bAYL3vOYk/s912/03012011287.jpg

Looking forward to fly the sim by yokes instead of a gamepad. I guess I will start spending more time behind "the wheel" than behind the MIP when it's ready, and start doing some real flights. Until now it's only been testflights even I did a flight on VATSIM in april only by autopilot. We can call that a testflight to to keep the books clean.

[JWS]

Looks nice NAX, imagine the things you can do with LEGO hey. :lol:

JWS

[Nick1150]

Great job Nax !!!!

Keep us posted man, I am really interested in your dual yoke and J rails projects ;)

Excelent progress !!!!

[nax228]

Here is a few details on the construction of the crossbar:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSQZYcaexsI/AAAAAAAAAEw/JHefRGpUlHs/s912/crossbar_foring2.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSQZYUI2UaI/AAAAAAAAAE0/1Oq0lQXgpTw/s912/crossbar_foring.jpg

The gaskets i use for bearings is made from 20mm nylon of some kind. Industrial plastics anyway.
It' very useful for this purpose reading the datasheets, so I hope they will last a long time. Found it in a container (dumpster) outside a company dealing with all sorts of plastic materials. cost 0€.

[JWS]

Here is the plan to get the sideways movement without having the actual J-rails (they are EXPENCIVE)
I will moult my rails on a pair of rails going the other direction and make a J in my MDF base. The J in the MDF will have nylon along the sides.

Cost will be equal to 0$


NAX, very interesting. Please keep us posted.
Few questions.
What exactly is "moult"?
How do you realize the side ways movement (wheels?)? Same question: how will the seat move backwards?
What kind of nylon do you use and where to get it?

Costs 00 seems optimistic.

Regards,

JWS

PS Have you seen the J-rails by Revolution-Simproducts?

[nax228]

Moult should be mount... typo.
Nylon: I got it from the dumpster outside www.vink.com. Dont know exactly what type it is, but sure seems appropriate. Ideally we should use POM.
I found this piece:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSQ3uFXoT9I/AAAAAAAAAFI/hB1v9J-dikc/s640/14122010264.jpg

We'll see about the sideways movement. I thought of using small ballbearings, but now i'm not sure. The nylon has got really good sliding characteristics... Idea in progress.
Backwards movement is done on the already mounted rails. It's a matter of placing and fixing these rails to something that moves sideways. Another set of rails or maybe nylon?

I have seen the rev-sim rails and a friend have ordered. Will be cool to see them up close, but I think I will be satisfied with a selfproduced solution.

cya

[JWS]

Ideally we should use POM.



POM ??

JWS

[nax228]

Well, you asked

What kind of nylon do you use and ....?

POM. Maybe you prefer Polyoxymethylene? hehe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyoxymethylene_plastic

[JWS]

Oh, the old polyoxymethylene, why didn't you say so in the first place. :lol:

JWS

[nax228]

So I have this idea that the force against the yokes could be made by only applying gas struts pulling on the structure from only one direction.
This will also make the trim-action easy to make... Remember that this is the idea ;)

Thought a lot on the physics and have made some drawings. Here is how I want to make the trim assembly.
If the yoke stands in its neutral position, the gas struts and "lip" on the crossbar will stand horizontally from the crossbar. Gas struts attached to the Trim-assembly's' elevator witch is also in mid position. Moving the yokes back and forward will apply force from the gas struts that want to pull the lip back to it's neutral position.
When I use my trim buttons this will activate the engine running the threaded rod, making the elevator that hold the gas struts up or down, thereby adjusting the neutral point for the yokes, and the yoke will move back or forward together with the aircrafts trim indicator.
I will base this on steady trim movement, and will adjust the engines speed by finding the right voltage to operate with to match the aircrafts trimming.

Here is the drawings:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb8Yy4N4KI/AAAAAAAAAHI/YqeLywuu7pg/s912/trim_assembly1.jpg
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http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb8ZImkwNI/AAAAAAAAAHM/vwfs9qAeQ3E/s912/trim_assembly2.jpg
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http://lh6.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb8ZryR_yI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/d1Qj9T4dFzs/s912/trim_assembly3.jpg
.
So this is how the neutral position looks like when the elevator is UP and DOWN.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TScB_tV2F7I/AAAAAAAAAIU/-G5fhVN4cj8/s912/trim_assembly_up.jpg
.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TScB_9geHII/AAAAAAAAAIY/rBFQ8SlyPIk/s912/trim_assembly_down.jpg

After todays dumpserhunt I got all the parts I need to start building the mechanism. I got the rod and bearings at home, but look at my nice findings in the dumpster at the wheelchairdealer:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb2-Ip8VvI/AAAAAAAAAF4/MxQPX9m-oMg/s912/07012011291.jpg

That engine is precisely what I was looking for, but this one runs 24V. I hope 12V gives enough revs to make it work. If not I have to go to the scrapyard for cars and buy an old motor for windowvipers. Exactly the same construction, but run on 12V AND I have to pay 20-30€ for it... This one was for free :) and thats how i like it.

Just stopped by another dumpster an found my second treasure for the day, 2 spare computers, exactly the same as I use in my setup. I burned one computer before xmas, but had one for spare... now I have two for spare.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb29Y7fihI/AAAAAAAAAF0/uX9ywi8JL4o/s912/07012011292.jpg

Hope to have the construction done by the weekend, but thats maybe to much to hope for. Anyway I have to make it before the yokes goes in.

Have a nice weekend!!

PS: If anyone recognize the motor, I found it on Sketchup warehouse, made by someone that would use it in his C172 cockpitbuild :) Now I have used it in a cockpitbuild as well. Thanks mate!!

[nax228]

Prototype finished. only need to weld a piece of flat iron to the nuts.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/08012011293.jpg

I'll try to do some tests tomorrow.

[nax228]

No tests preformed, but did some building. Just a few quick updatepics.

This is the nylonbearing that hold the construction. A similar setup on the other side, but still miss the centerpiece.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/09012011300.jpg
.
Elevator installed:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/09012011302.jpg
.
Couldnt get the elevator small enough to fit under the floor, but like this, the motor will stand inside the CDU-bay and thats OK.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/09012011304.jpg

[nax228]

Turned out my idea was to easy. Here is the scenario: I take off and pull yoke back, the gas struts would give force to the yokes. If I then trim with this assembly to equal the force, the elevators on the aircraft would still be in up position when trim is applied. So I had to find a solution to let the elevators come to neutral as the trim is applied...
The assembly is turning out quite complicated as new problems shows up, but I hope i can still come trough. The problem mentioned above was pointed out from a friend, and I just had not thought about the fact that the trim and the elevators are different components :D Well... If you see other things I might have missed out, please point them out to me.

Made a little animation of the latest drawings.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPxCh892wIE

[tomenglish2000]

Hi Nax.

When you pull back or push on the yoke it will be moving the elevators but not the stabaliser. The trim moves the stabaliser. So on takeoff you would pull back to start rotation. As you trim, the amount you are required to deflect the elevator gets smaller because the stabaliser moves (which means you slowly return the yoke to neutral), so when trimmed correctly the elevators are at a neutral position with the stabaliser. It is the stabaliser that does all the hard work but it is only controlled through the trim. The autopilot controls the stabliser for pitch control (at half the rate of the manual input) and doesnt move the elevators. This means when the autopilot is in control, the yoke doesnt move back and forth.
However the amount of resistance in pulling and pushing the yolk will increase/decrease with airspeed.

The ailerons are different because they are the only control surfaces on the wing AND the autopilot controls them. So trimming the ailerons will result in a deflected yoke. As the autopilot controls the ailerons the yolk will also move.

The rudder is similar to the aileron in both trim and deflection.

I believe what I have put above is correct but if I am wrong will someone please correct me, because this is how I will be building mine!

Tom.

[nax228]

This is very good info Tom.
Another guy also pointed out some of the things you mention,so I will have to reconsider the whole project. I have not gathered enough info before I started the project... da ja vu...
The end sections of the yoke assembly was delivered to the welder yesterday to fit a new centerpiece, so time to get something more done with this trimthingy is running out and I guess the only thing my construction can do "as-is" is to function as force feedback in manual mode.

Do you want to share your ideas Tom?

[tomenglish2000]

Hi Nax. I am happy to share ideas, but I dont really have plans and things.

First I am building for a 767, so mine might be different to yours in a few details, but I expect not.

As described above I plan on making the yoke move for ailerons but not for elevators. This will be done by moving the neutral point of the centering mechanism.
I havent properly designed this yet but this is what I think I will be doing. Like you my yokes are linked using cable pulleys, so I will attach the cable to two gas struts. These will work on the same principle of your elevator centering mechanism where in one direction one gas strut moves freely while the other provides pressure to push back to neutral. The gas struts will be mounted on a moving frame which will be moved by a lead screw and motor. This will allow me to move the neutral point, similar to your current elevator motor.
The aileron trim will move the motor which in turn moves the neutral point, so the yoke moves. This looks great but will be a problem for flight sim because it expects the yoke the be neutral when it applies trim, as any yoke movement from the centre is applied on top of the trim for the ailerons. To see what I mean start a flight, trim the aileron away from neutral. The aircraft starts to bank at a certain rate. Then apply yoke aileron as you would expect it to appear when the trim is in place and you will see the bank rate get faster.
To solve this I will not be sending aileron trim signals to flight simulator but relying on the yoke mechanism to apply the correct aileron deflection.

I will be using SIOC to control my motors. It will keep an internal value for the aileron trim and move the mechanism to that value when the autopilot is NOT in command. When the autopilot is in command it will move the centering mechanism to wherever the ailerons are deflected, so the autopilot will move the yoke ailerons. When the autopilot disconnects the centering mechanism will be moved to the internal trim value. This is true to the real aircraft because the autopilot doesnt trim the ailerons, it will just move them into position. In the real aircraft if you have the autopilot in command the aileron trim will not appear to do anything. If you trim to full left deflection, the autopilot will hold them wherever it requires them, BUT when you disconnect the yoke will swing the full left deflection as that is the trimmed position. Pilots have to watch out for that and with this setup I will too!

I will be using the same principles for my rudder pedals including the centering mechanism and trim.

The elevator is different as discussed in my first post. For that I will be sending the trim signals to FS so it can move the stabaliser. My elevator will be centred using the same prinicples as the aileron except that the centering neutral point will not move.

Additionaly I would idealy want to model the artificial feel applied to the 767 yoke. I am not sure if this applies to the 737 as it's yoke might be directly connected the control surfaces but in the 767 it is not, so artificial feel is applied. This will be a nice to have feature but not something that is really necessary so I will only do it if I have time and it isnt too complicated. But this is how I expect it could be done.
As the aircraft picks up speed the elevators will be harder to push/pull. To do this I will have the elevator centering mechanism connected to a lead screw which is connected to my yokes. By moving the centering mechanism up and down the lead screw I will be able to change the moment of the centering force, resulting in a heavier or lighter centering mechanism depending on the speed of the aircraft. I hope you get what I mean by this, its difficult without pictures! Imagine I have my yokes like yours except there is a smaller vertical rod in the centre. If I attach my centering mechanism at the top of this vertical rod I will have to push hard to move the gas struts, if it is attached near the bottom I will be able to use less force. By using a load screw I can move the attachment point up and down that vertical rod to change the amount of force I need.
This artificial feel could also be done on the ailerons and rudder.

Artificial feel is dependant on many factors and I dont have all the info about how it affects the yoke and rudder yet, but it is essentially speed based.

So for you, if you remove or disable the moving mechanism for the elevator centering it should be OK.

Feel free to ask any questions. :-)

Tom.

[nax228]

I'll let this one go. It turned out the trim did'nt act the way I thought. Bad research there ;) I'll work on other ideas later on.

[dion73]

Hi Nax,

Great setup,
I especially like the mirrored projection. Is there no obstruction in the lightpath when you move your head or arms? (especially during the cheering after a succesful landing, with confetti and trumpets, you know what i mean : ))

cheers,

dion

[nax228]

hehe... i see what you mean, but it's ok. The height is supposed to be just high enough to be able to mount a overhead underneath.

[737dragon]

So I have this idea that the force against the yokes could be made by only applying gas struts pulling on the structure from only one direction.
This will also make the trim-action easy to make... Remember that this is the idea ;)

Thought a lot on the physics and have made some drawings. Here is how I want to make the trim assembly.
If the yoke stands in its neutral position, the gas struts and "lip" on the crossbar will stand horizontally from the crossbar. Gas struts attached to the Trim-assembly's' elevator witch is also in mid position. Moving the yokes back and forward will apply force from the gas struts that want to pull the lip back to it's neutral position.
When I use my trim buttons this will activate the engine running the threaded rod, making the elevator that hold the gas struts up or down, thereby adjusting the neutral point for the yokes, and the yoke will move back or forward together with the aircrafts trim indicator.
I will base this on steady trim movement, and will adjust the engines speed by finding the right voltage to operate with to match the aircrafts trimming.

Here is the drawings:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb8Yy4N4KI/AAAAAAAAAHI/YqeLywuu7pg/s912/trim_assembly1.jpg
.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb8ZImkwNI/AAAAAAAAAHM/vwfs9qAeQ3E/s912/trim_assembly2.jpg
.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb8ZryR_yI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/d1Qj9T4dFzs/s912/trim_assembly3.jpg
.
So this is how the neutral position looks like when the elevator is UP and DOWN.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TScB_tV2F7I/AAAAAAAAAIU/-G5fhVN4cj8/s912/trim_assembly_up.jpg
.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TScB_9geHII/AAAAAAAAAIY/rBFQ8SlyPIk/s912/trim_assembly_down.jpg

After todays dumpserhunt I got all the parts I need to start building the mechanism. I got the rod and bearings at home, but look at my nice findings in the dumpster at the wheelchairdealer:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb2-Ip8VvI/AAAAAAAAAF4/MxQPX9m-oMg/s912/07012011291.jpg

That engine is precisely what I was looking for, but this one runs 24V. I hope 12V gives enough revs to make it work. If not I have to go to the scrapyard for cars and buy an old motor for windowvipers. Exactly the same construction, but run on 12V AND I have to pay 20-30€ for it... This one was for free :) and thats how i like it.

Just stopped by another dumpster an found my second treasure for the day, 2 spare computers, exactly the same as I use in my setup. I burned one computer before xmas, but had one for spare... now I have two for spare.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TSb29Y7fihI/AAAAAAAAAF0/uX9ywi8JL4o/s912/07012011292.jpg

Hope to have the construction done by the weekend, but thats maybe to much to hope for. Anyway I have to make it before the yokes goes in.

Have a nice weekend!!

PS: If anyone recognize the motor, I found it on Sketchup warehouse, made by someone that would use it in his C172 cockpitbuild :) Now I have used it in a cockpitbuild as well. Thanks mate!!

thanks for the CAD system ... very interesting for my project

[nax228]

Hope it serve you well. May the force be with you...

[nax228]

Not much to update lately, but there have been some progress. Firstly I have switched my cockpitsoftware. Just before christmas I tried the Prosim737 suite, and this is a much better choice for me. I belive this software is going to be the preferred one by most 737-800NG builders in the years to come. If you havent tried it, DO SO!
For the first test I didn't unplug or rearranged any hardware or computer setup. The software was installed in the matter of munutes and configuration to get it going was also done very quick.

Regarding the dual yokes I have encountered quite some problems, but it will be up and running within the next 3 weeks. My girlfriend is traveling to china and will return in 3 weeks. She did not want the assembly in the kitchen when she returns :D With her out of the house I can also dedicate more time to build, so it should be OK.
The gas struts that I thought was strong enough wasn't after all... by far. I haven't sorted out how to do this best, but will try another solution this week. The gas truts will remain cuz they made the movement soft. The aileron movement is done and worked out fine.
A few pics from the process:
The basemodule with yokes
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TUnN3jrpKQI/AAAAAAAAANI/UdVdPLsb5ek/s720/02022011347-1.jpg

Flywheels for aileron movement:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TVObzBnZbGI/AAAAAAAAAMc/DPNIy0xRkYE/s720/08022011361.jpg

Flywheels in place:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TVObybBniRI/AAAAAAAAAMQ/0LTJZbfaP18/s720/09022011366.jpg

Gas struts mounted:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TVOby1Z9yrI/AAAAAAAAAMU/9ZcmkAFs25o/s720/09022011363.jpg

overview:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TVObx93gPrI/AAAAAAAAAMM/5Vg3f5uzCxc/s720/09022011367.jpg

On this last picture I hadn't cut the MDF that interfere with the wire. It's done now.
The wire runs two times around the flywheels and is secured wit epoxy on the inside. You also see the connetors from the buttons on the yokes. These are ready to be connected to the BU086x card. I will parallel couple the wires so that any action on eighter yoke will preform the tasks.

Soon to be updated!!

[737dragon]

Good job, good solutions, I like the result ;)

[nax228]

PROSIM737!

hehe

[JWS]

What do you mean, NAX?:???:

JWS

[nax228]

I was really just trying to write with fontsize 77... didn't work

[nax228]

a few more days... a few weeks at tops ;)... then bact to flying
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TYZwO7tmtOI/AAAAAAAAARE/cqYFlBRop0k/s800/20032011422.jpg

You won't understand what i'm talking about on this video, but you'll get the basic idea behind it.
Could not find a good solution for the elevator springs/centerpoint, so i will just have to deal with that later on. The struts and the nylon gascets make the feel quite ok anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbhioy6gG4U

[nax228]

yupp... getting there
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TYkYL3KOU5I/AAAAAAAAAR0/6e9zdlHPn1s/s800/22032011425.jpg

[jskibo]

Looking good Nax

[Nick1150]

You sure do Nax !!!

:)

[737dragon]

is very profesional jejeje

[JWS]

Looking great Nax. Practicing instrument flying under the hood judging by the look of the curtain. ;)

JWS

[nax228]

hehe... yes, we do it the old fashion way even in a NG :D

Experience have learned me to cover up before sawing in mdf.

[super2277]

Do you heave build the MIP self?

[Scandinavian-A330]

What do you mean, NAX?:???:

JWS
Norwegian air shuttle (Norwegian Airline) they fly thr 737-800 ;)

/Tim

[nax228]

I've finally come around to actually build my Simworld OH. Been lying around for over a year now...
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TcfPhTqPOLI/AAAAAAAAAXM/aNExKVcrz7k/s640/IMG_0014.JPG

Tried different frames, but the original 737-300 just didn't fit and an aluframe I made didn't do the trick eighter so I'm back to the good old wood :D
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/Ta3ZH1dDpDI/AAAAAAAAAUA/IL4H8BVIQm8/s640/19042011453.jpg
.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TbAP841jyZI/AAAAAAAAAVw/ojJa-1qaF0s/s640/21042011462.jpg

I will make the gauges as a DIY project and have bought a Servo card from OC and printed the plates on to plastic foil. The foil will be glued to a white plexiglass, the type they use in billboards for backlighting.
Had a few servos (HS-55) lying from a crashed RC plane, so I will start with them. Hopefully it will work and I'll document the making later.

[dion73]

Hi Nax,

I would like to know how you made the coupling of the steering column and the crossbar. Could you place some pictures or another movie maybe? I just got two columns and wheels myself and ran into the problem you already solved : )

thanks in advance,

dion

[Norwegian737project]

Seem to remember there's about 2000 soldering points just in the FWD overhead;)

But it's part of the hobby! Good luck, I'm sure it will turn out awesome like everything else you have accomplished.. :lol:

[nax228]

Hi dion
The assembly is now mounted in cockpit, so new pics will not be taken before I buy a new house or get in serious problems with the yokes, but I hope and think they will hold.
I'll post the pics I have, but I have drawings where you can get into the smallest details. Download Sketchup from google and send me your email address in PM and I will send them to you.

EDIT: Here is a link to the photoalbum with all the pics. There is also some screenies from sketchup.
https://picasaweb.google.com/108214606934053540391/SIM#
Hope it helps

[nax228]

Starting to look like a overhead now.
Have to paint some crack between some of the panels and all the "DZUS" screws, but think they will be OK in the end.
Need a few pushbuttons, pots and switches before I start the BIG task of wireing it up.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TdDcA0J2u3I/AAAAAAAAAX4/LRIbtuFjUbo/s640/IMG_0080.JPG

[Lazarus]

Fantastic work Nax, it`s taking shape nicely, top stuff!:D

[lenne]

Looks sweet Nax!These Polish manufacturers do know how to produce
quality stuff.Keep up the good work!

I will order my overhead in a week or two hehe...can't wait:)

[nax228]

I actually orderet the overhead on the intro price, almost two years ago :D Took me some time to get around to assemble it.
Just placed a order from Filip at simworld for some buttons and switches the opencockpitguys had left out or sent wrong. Almost finished with mounting all switches, but had like 8 on-off-on switches left, but missed 8 on-off :S To long ago i ordered it to file a complaint, so I'll just support my polish dealers.
They have some very nice big pushbuttons I couldn't find at any local dealers.
I have a original APU starterswitch to, but it did not fit to the holes, so I ordered one of those as well.

Today I start making the gauges. Really looking forward to do those.

[lenne]

Nice,nice...can't wait to see the finished result.

Yeah thoose big pushbuttoms is a pain to find.I used to by switches and other stuff
from "ELFA",top quality but very expensive...

Im having quite a dilema...can't really make up my mind witch overhead to go with.
Poldragonet seem to be a good quality product and if i buy the set i get almost
everything for a nice price.
Simworld's overhead looks authentic and if i remember it right its
made of aluminium?Price including switches is a bit higher but also quality i guess...

Someone help me please....haha.

[nax228]

I made up my mind back then, and would buy the same today.

[nax228]

Plan:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TdY5BQJsADI/AAAAAAAAAYw/9icOVOj-Nm4/s1024/gauge.jpg
.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_6cfkT1JgF-0/TdZI04jTcUI/AAAAAAAAAZA/bmJ2QJ-e8-c/s912/gauge2.jpg

I started the first gauge yesterday, but need a thicker shaft for the gear/needle.
To be continued on monday.

[Anderson/SBSP]

Very cool!!

[nax228]

Got hold on some POM and made blocks to fit on my rails and made tracks in the blocks to fit some POM rails. The POMrails are fastened to the floor, and when my seat comes in full back position, it slides sideways and back on the nylon rails.
I made 2 blocks yesterday and will make the other 2 today. Took a quick test yesterday with only the two blocks I made, and it seem to slide quite well. Well enough anyway.

POM is the kind of nylon with the best characteristics for gliding. Grease or stearin will make it slide even better.

It's a easy and simple solution and ofcourse I found the materials in a dumpster. Cost 0$ :D

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--BqQIjHewpY/TfhgKljlTLI/AAAAAAAAAek/lspfSFNqtgA/s912/nylonrails2.jpg

[JWS]

Where can I find that dumpster?;-)

JWS

[nax228]

First tests done, and I'm pleased with the result.
The left metalrail points a little up and need more weight to hold the blocks tight, so this block failed in this test.
Now I can make new holes in the metalrail so that the nylonblocks stay put and tight.

This test was done without any lubricants on the nylon and with me sitting in the chair.
The nylonrails is 30cm long, almost 1 fot, and is mounted 45 degree backward. This gives 15 cm clearing toward the pedestal. With the 5-7 cm clearing that is there when seats are in "IN" position, I now get over 20cm to climb in/out of the seats.
Glad it worked out as I hoped :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46I7oubbfQE

[JWS]

NAX,

That looks great. But do you think it's strong enough if you use it a lot? How much weight can it take?

JWS

[nax228]

I bet it can take an elephant. Time will show, but it's industrial quality, so I think it will hold for a long long time.

[nax228]

I shot a video at the norwegian releaseshow for FSX and they gave a very cool "meal" to everybody on the stand. Would be cool to have a few boxes for my visitors in the sim...


http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/?action=view&current=FSXMeal.mp4

[nax228]

Rails installed. Much easier to enter the seats with this solution since the simroom is so narrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOKXVrzXPTA

[Nick1150]

I shot a video at the norwegian releaseshow for FSX and they gave a very cool "meal" to everybody on the stand. Would be cool to have a few boxes for my visitors in the sim...


http://s37.photobucket.com/albums/e55/gosttveit/?action=view&current=FSXMeal.mp4:p That's a great find !!!!! hehehe


Rails installed. Much easier to enter the seats with this solution since the simroom is so narrow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOKXVrzXPTA Congrats on your new construction Nax !!! Happy flying :cool:

[lenne]

Well done Nax!Digging the slide's...

[JWS]

Hey Nax,

sent you a PM about the rails. Give me a "call" when you're back from holidays with your guaranteed sun tan ;-), please.

JWS

[nax228]

Roger wilco

[nax228]

My guests will also get proper seats...

These are row #1 seats with tray in armrests :D
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-oVr4i8vbM7E/TnclLrHwiGI/AAAAAAAAAj0/C0T3HMxxXiA/s720/IMG_0484.JPG

Boarding complete, captain

[JWS]

Can I have a window seat?:cool:

JWS

[Nick1150]

WOW that's what I call "as real as it gets" !!!!

[nax228]

Windows needed. Been flying around with wind blowing in my hair for years.



https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AAJ3hfY-4q4/ThtI745Av-I/AAAAAAAAAhA/1F8Tl6ahqgQ/s912/IMG_0379.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-B9wZdE-vFyY/ThtI8uM3inI/AAAAAAAAAhE/abzarBRvklo/s912/IMG_0380.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9k-FHWNqrWQ/ThtJL5Y9O2I/AAAAAAAAAhQ/tZpLcBwAu7I/s912/IMG_0381.jpg

Made these out of mdf from this drawing.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5ZvCatk9pB4/Th6Ye405d4I/AAAAAAAAAhk/vHAhloReqKw/s912/wind_2D_wm.jpg

After glueing and some cuting, it turned out ok.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XuZEN_zRL8w/Tm0HUx2qZyI/AAAAAAAAAjs/8_CtHd6AYRI/s800/IMG_0656.jpg

It's now BETA installed in the cockpit, and did wonders. maybe not to easy to show here, but here it goes

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-nyVRNoFXDVk/Tnj5Skijh3I/AAAAAAAAAj4/IziTmurmmjU/s800/IMG_0667.jpg

[nax228]

Just a little addition to the pit, F/O CDU.
You can also spot the terrainradar and VSD on the displays, but plane is situated on RW.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Z8eBvePdXbE/TqHphz386aI/AAAAAAAAAkY/ltPvTMn85bY/s800/IMG_0698.jpg

[fsaviator]

Looking good Nax...

Warren

[dion73]

hi Nax,

Your cockpit really is so cool : ) I get a lot of inspiration out of it, thanks man!

dion

[nax228]

Thanks for the kind words guys.
Some work done in the woodshop department this weekend. A lot of soledering left before it's finished, but it does look good.

5732

[nax228]

It's been a year almost since my sim was placed in the warehouse in wait for the new house.
I have collected and buing stuff the whole time, so I'm VERY eager to get V3.0 rolling.
In good old fashion I have to make some changes to the floor plan to get the right amount of space for the sim and the workshop in the cabin department (new addition), and this time I have enough space for it all. Got pretty crowded in my last room :D
(De)Construction will start October 15th.

For new viewers I'm sorry for all the pictures gone missing. This was due to some mixup in my google account and a lot of pics got deleted when trying to merge accounts. Yepp, I messed it up big time.
Many pics to come the next year from now I hope.

[nax228]

How the time flies... my sim is not, but soon again, it will be brought to life.
Here is a little update stitched togeter from other forums.

new simplifyed design for the tillermechanism I've been working on. Now it's not nessesary to bend the plates. (as you understand, this have been under development)


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KSjDLv4Fbog/UuyyMINagSI/AAAAAAAAAUg/goStuLtoGkc/w1214-h576-no/tillermekanisme4.jpg


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uMR3nC-7uU4/Uu-UwKRJwuI/AAAAAAAAAU4/Y2j0ZahTuSk/w1357-h728-no/tillermekanisme4.jpg

Small steps beeing made each week now, and plan to take a few big ones now that I will have 4 weeks vacation...
Mip is finally all wired up with new backlighting and new sun screen film on monitors. Yokes is next thing in, but await new custom made nylon blocks to attach yokes to the floor. Been assembling the aft oh during waiting for theese.


Some new items awaiting imlementation:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/--7dQdkbSSp8/UutbNHnKKfI/AAAAAAAAATw/d611eevlQaQ/w1024-h576-no/P1020018_zps131017df.jpg


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-La6Rk0EFLm4/UutbNh9FxMI/AAAAAAAAAUA/Zy69vt9Lp_0/w1024-h576-no/P1020019_zps376bde01.jpg


triangular panel in front of OH:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/GBO9wc8A9cgVYEFV083nb-pqBlxGqZ6-W_NcHaAKUaY=w1259-h550-no


tiller:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-38YTXp7q9iY/U0U-l2udPBI/AAAAAAAAAYE/mICJgLt1vsI/w624-h835-no/IMG_0502.JPG


Air vents:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ev9v_nuFgMs/U0U-KvUd52I/AAAAAAAAAX0/hTRV6SNDKKY/w1118-h835-no/IMG_1107.JPG






This weeks status:


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZUm7IoOqTTE/U0U10KB9dBI/AAAAAAAAAWU/Bs59Uq3tVmA/w1113-h835-no/IMG_2339.JPG


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_ijIbruXzXE/U0U10IusGvI/AAAAAAAAAWk/2urg18aKatQ/w1357-h711-no/IMG_2338.JPG


Pleased with the back lighting. Here is a few samle pics:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tFCaYx6350Q/U0VAQr4VlqI/AAAAAAAAAYk/0TDwOz6Dj1k/w1113-h835-no/IMG_2295.JPG


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cpx0UZ0UO2I/U0VAPrFQ3HI/AAAAAAAAAYc/YLTOcfl9nas/w1113-h835-no/IMG_2296.JPG


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JNff-7vMzt0/U0VAPpE1zGI/AAAAAAAAAYY/WfEH5Xv52Vs/w626-h835-no/IMG_2298.JPG





Yokes installed. Here is the mechanics:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1YCt3loOiP4/U1FRzDM8pvI/AAAAAAAAAY4/BpDLSLM5aIQ/w868-h651-no/IMAGE_4.jpg




nevermind the mess
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jTYNfn6llTs/U1FR5fhUOiI/AAAAAAAAAZY/8e3T6JN2CK8/w868-h651-no/IMAGE_8.jpg



Pot for aileron:


The wire without pot:
http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o4mut0RT9A8/U1VPm6XJsYI/AAAAAAAAAZk/cdMkTzWrTpY/s1024-no/IMAGE_12.jpg


Bracket with pot and glide wheel:
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HXE_jY8nBRM/U1VPoRuYuXI/AAAAAAAAAZs/HYgBLTkhpeM/s1024-no/IMAGE_13.jpg


Mounted:
http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1QEfOy1jBsc/U1Vz8pZaNcI/AAAAAAAAAaE/d3K4L1dXyp4/s1024-no/IMAGE_15.jpg



http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O3NXBqrqmi4/U4IdaXTEAWI/AAAAAAAAAaw/tgxhrmXcqPc/s1024-no/IMAGE_18.jpg


Rubber bads will pick up the slack when one spring is fully stretched and the other is not.
http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Icw1mz8rEU8/U4Idb8hrasI/AAAAAAAAAa4/SkaCV4-UexA/s1024-no/IMAGE_19.jpg


http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-QDXeF2LSaD4/U4IddabAZmI/AAAAAAAAAbA/ODgVFKvG4OE/s1024-no/IMAGE_20.jpg

Aft oh is now ready. Also added the EEC buttons after this pic waqs taken:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_uSSsGgcqpk/U4Zv270Sx8I/AAAAAAAAAbc/8KRg4mShnzo/w868-h651-no/IMAGE_22.jpg

as of today:
http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jMWvv5asEXQ/U4t6rWupy-I/AAAAAAAAAjU/BkMsGgB0EDg/s1024-no/IMAGE_28.jpg


Feel free to ask any questions

[Nick1150]

Great work Nax !!!!

I wish to be as soon as possible flyable again ;)