Norwegian 727-200 project

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi everyone. This is the continuation of this thread http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/showthread.php/22770-727-MIP-dimensions

Here's an update of todays progress.

I found that 2" drain pipes would work for engine instrument bezels. :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0700.jpg

MIP Painted
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0698.jpg

A few items added to the centre panel. Bought from 737NUT :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0701.jpg

Panels mounted back in the cockpit structure
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0013.jpg

Glare panel off of ebay, Hacked a hole and fitted the FD in to it. The FD has been interfaced to a Leo Bodnar card
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0014.jpg

Got the OH panel up tonight as well
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0015.jpg

A pic of the MIP without flash
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0018.jpg

[Chaser]

Lookin' great!!! So excited to see a 727 coming together (especially one from scratch). I never heard back if you were still wanting help with locating or obtaining pieces either, so if you sent that message, it was lost.

Do you need the actual glareshield itself or is it just not set up yet? There are a couple dirt cheap ones on E-Bay that don't have the fire pulls (which you already have).
Jon

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi Jon.

I never heard back from you. I guess your message got lost. I did get a glare shield off of e-bay. It will be sent by sea together with a few other items, so I won't see that for a while unfortunately. I have plenty work to do with the stuff that have arrived though. I really can't proceed with the windows and the rest of the shell construction before I get the glare shield though.

I can't believe I mispelled the title! I must have bee exhausted from putting up that OH panel last night! :D

[Chaser]

I dropped you a PM...lemme know if you didn't get it. Everything is lookin' good....may have to make a trip out to Norway and Denmark to see some of these pieces coming together!!!
Jon

[AVIATor-Olav]

Got the auto pilot wired up, interfaced and working this evening.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0027.jpg

[Chaser]

Just noticed something....are you missing the light caps for the instrument comparators??? I think they go to either side of the fire pulls, but I'm not building a Boeing cockpit so I'm not sure. I happen to have just the light caps if you need them.

It looks absolutely wonderful.
Jon

[AVIATor-Olav]

Yes, I do miss all the caps on the glare panel. I didn't know they were instrument comparator caps though. I know the other ones I miss is the Wheel weel fire cap, and bottle discharged caps. Maybe I'll get them from you along with that tiller wheel! :)

Thanks for the nice comment!

Tor

[AVIATor-Olav]

I've been busy wiring up and interfacing the OH panel lately. Still waiting for my 5v power supply for the backlighting.
Most of the switches are hooked up now.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0028.jpg

Can anybody tell me how to loose the guage night lighting? This is what happens to the non DF guages at night.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0031.jpg

If I turn the off the fluorescent panel light on the OH panel they all reappear though
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0032.jpg

[Anderson/SBSP]

Amazing poject!! Congrats!!

[project 727]

Hi
I just came across this thread.

First congratulations on your work and for choosing the Boeing 727 for your sim. Welcome to a very exclusive 727 sim builders club!!!
Second I apologize for not recieve your private message. Last year I had many problems with my server and with virus issues.

Its been many years since I builts my panel and since I played arround with FSPANEL STUDIO but I think your problem with the gauges is because you may have to assing a "Night Lighting Color Hue Effect" to them. FSPANEL ST will let you assign a night lighting color ( yellowish, redish, greenish etc.) effect to your gauges so you can see them at night. If this is not done then at night the gauges will be pitch black.

If this works for you then make sure to assign the same night lighting effect (color) to the gauges you CAN ALREADY SEE at night with the fluore light on. You do not want some of your guages to look redish and others yellowish at night. They should all look incandescent yellowish at night.

Are you using the Richard Probust gauges?

I hope this works for You and look foward to seeing Your Boeing 727 in the Sky Very Soon!!!

Joe Maldonado
www.project727.com

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi Joe.

I've visited your site more than once to be honest, I got a few ideas for my MIP there as well! :)

My guages are a mix of DF 727, Aerosim 727, and Richard Probst guages. The guages you can see at night are the DF 727 guages.
I'll have to play around with FSPanel studio again, and see if I can get the other guages to light up.
Thanks for your input Joe! I'm happy to see that you are still active with your amazing 727 sim.

Anderson/SBSP, thanks for your nice comment! :)

[AVIATor-Olav]

The first projector is up and running.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0039.jpg

[Geremy Britton]

Hi Tor

What projector are you using there?
Is it a shortthrow one?

All the best

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi Geremy.

Yes it's a Benq MW811ST. Wish I could afford 3 of them! :roll:



Best regards
Tor

[No Longer Active]

OMG! Those BenQ projectors are over £1000 each in the UK!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Well, it wasn't that expensive over here, but it did take a chunk out of my pay check. Then again what doesn't in this hobby!?
I spent a lot of time reading specs on various projectors before I decided which one to get. It became obvious very soon that buying a second hand cheap low res projector (which I had initially thought of doing) just wasn't going to cut it. So I decided to get one I can enjoy for many years.

[lenne]

Very cool projekt!Long live the classics.

/lenne

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks lenne. :)

I got my long awaited 5v power supply. Unfortunately it wasn't juicy enough to light up all the panels of my OH panel. It could only handle 6 panels at a time. I just got a 20A one off ebay now. Hopefully the one I allready got will handle the radio stack!

Got another rather big package on it's way from the states! Will be a few weeks before I see that one:(
Patience never was a strength of mine! :)

[AVIATor-Olav]

A small update.

I've fabricated the angeled panels below the MIP and fitted and interfaced encoders for various bugs etc. The two open holes are for toggle switches for switching between adf/vor 1 & 2 on the RMI.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0045.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0048.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0054.jpg

[Chaser]

http://stores.ebay.com/BONEYARD2U?_trksid=p4340.l2563

You may wanna check out this guys stuff. He's got a TON of stuff on the 727. Instrument panel with all gauges (as flown), all pieces for a flight engineer station, a complete overhead (I think you have it), and a bunch of other pieces. Additionally he has a throttle quadrant for a C-130...kinda unusual.

This is a guy I've dealt with very extensively and he is very reasonable. If he's not willing to ship, I can give you some alternate shipping options via PM.
Jon

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks Jon.
I saw his adds last night. He definately has a lot of goodies! I actually thought of bidding on his cockpit lights & speaker package. The FE station doesn't look complete to me? I allready have a full OH panel and a rather big package is coming in from the states! :) ETA mid /end March. Can't wait!

[Chaser]

The actual framework isn't present, but I think most of the other stuff is there. The framework will be hard to find outside of the one available from APHS LTD, as it is actually part of the airframe, and is VERY difficult to get. The only other one I've seen in my 3 years of watching was cut in several places and would require a LOT of work. However, you could possibly make something very similar with some DZUS rails and measurements, as well as a bit of metal work.
Jon

-Edit: Spoke too soon. I looked through and there are some missing components, although thats still quite a few pieces for a FE panel for a reasonable price. I'm trying to find out exactly what is missing. Jon

[AVIATor-Olav]

My 24V power supply is here. Hooked up the lights under the glare panel, and the pedestal lights in the OH panel tonight. All lights are controlled directly by the respective switches on the OH panel
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0714.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0716.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0718.jpg

[Norwegian737project]

This is freaking awesome.. We have to meet over a cup of coffee.. The funny thing is that all of this hardware would fit perfectly into my 737 shell;)

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi there! Yes, your shell would fit my project perfectly! :P
How are things coming along with your project? Coffee sounds good, where are you located?

Cheers
Tor-Olav

[Norwegian737project]

Pm you buddy...

[AVIATor-Olav]

More lights.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0060.jpg

The anti ice panel lights have got me thinking though! It's going to take some wiring to make those light up realisticly.
Oh well, I'll leave that for an other day.


Cheers

[LH784]

Here is my SIOC code for the lights (Window heat and wing deice).
Might be a starting point...I hope it is complete since I copied it from different parts of my code. The code actually does not do anything except for controling the lights. The VJs (virtual joysticks) are thought to be used to switch on the switches in the sim, but I am not sure if that is really a good idea since they are (in my FlightOne 727) toggle switches and the software cannot determine the state of the switch so you might just turn it the wrong way in the sim).
Good luck,
Florian


Var 2011, name WinL1OnLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 49 // Window Heat L1 On Light
Var 2012, name WinL1OvtLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 52 // Window Heat L1 Overtemperature Light
Var 2013, name WinL2OnLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 50 // Window Heat L2 On Light
Var 2014, name WinL2OvtLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 54 // Window Heat L2 Overtemperature Light
Var 2015, name WinR1OnLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 51 // Window Heat R1 On Light
Var 2016, name WinR1OvtLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 55 // Window Heat R1 Overtemperature Light
Var 2017, name WinR2OnLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 53 // Window Heat R2 On Light
Var 2018, name WinR2OvtLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 56 // Window Heat R2 Overtemperature Light
Var 2019, name AntiIceDctOvtL, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 39 // Anti Ice Duct Overheat Light
Var 2020, name WngLAIPosLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 47 // Left Wing Anti Ice Valve Position Agreement Light
Var 2021, name WngRAIPosLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 48 // Right Wing Anti Ice Valve Position Agreement Light
Var 2022, name EngLAIPosLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 44 // Left Engine Inlet Anti Ice Valve Position Agreement Light
Var 2023, name EngCAIPosLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 45 // Center Engine Inlet Anti Ice Valve Position Agreement Light
Var 2024, name EngRAIPosLmp, Link IOCARD_OUT, Device 3, Output 46 // Right Engine Inlet Anti Ice Valve Position Agreement Light

// *****************************************************************************
// *
// * Anti Ice Panels ab 2400
// *
// *****************************************************************************
Var 2401, name WndHeatL1_OnSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 112 // Window Heat L1 ON Switch
{
IF &Electricity > 0 // If Electricity is available
{
IF &WndHeatL1_OnSw = 1
{
&WinL1OnLmp = 1
&VJ64 = SETBIT 0
}
ELSE
{
&WinL1OnLmp = 0
&VJ64 = CLEARBIT 0
}
}
ELSE
{
&WinL1OnLmp = 0
}
}

Var 2402, name WndHeatR1_OnSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 110 // Window Heat R1 ON Switch
{
IF &Electricity > 0 // If Electricity is available
{
IF &WndHeatR1_OnSw = 1
{
&WinR1OnLmp = 1
&VJ64 = SETBIT 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinR1OnLmp = 0
&VJ64 = CLEARBIT 1
}
}
ELSE
{
&WinR1OnLmp = 0
}
}

Var 2403, name WndHeatL2_OnSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 111 // Window Heat L2 ON Switch
{
IF &Electricity > 0 // If Electricity is available
{
IF &WndHeatL2_OnSw = 1
{
&WinL2OnLmp = 1
&VJ64 = SETBIT 2
}
ELSE
{
&WinL2OnLmp = 0
&VJ64 = CLEARBIT 2
}
}
ELSE
{
&WinL2OnLmp = 0
}
}

Var 2404, name WndHeatR2_OnSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 109 // Window Heat R2 ON Switch
{
IF &Electricity > 0 // If Electricity is available
{
IF &WndHeatR2_OnSw = 1
{
&WinR2OnLmp = 1
&VJ64 = SETBIT 3
}
ELSE
{
&WinR2OnLmp = 0
&VJ64 = CLEARBIT 3
}
}
ELSE
{
&WinR2OnLmp = 0
}
}

Var 2405, name WndHeatPwrTstS, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 108 // Window Heat Power On Test Switch
{
IF &Electricity > 0 // If Electricity is available
{
IF &WndHeatPwrTstS = 1
{
&WinL1OnLmp = 1
&WinL2OnLmp = 1
&WinR1OnLmp = 1
&WinR2OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
IF &WndHeatL1_OnSw = 1
{
&WinL1OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinL1OnLmp = 0
}
IF &WndHeatR1_OnSw = 1
{
&WinR1OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinR1OnLmp = 0
}
IF &WndHeatL2_OnSw = 1
{
&WinL2OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinL2OnLmp = 0
}
IF &WndHeatR2_OnSw = 1
{
&WinR2OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinR2OnLmp = 0
}
}
}
}

Var 2406, name WndHeatOVTTstS, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 251 // Window Heat Overheat Test Switch
{
IF &Electricity > 0 // If Electricity is available
{
IF &WndHeatOVTTstS = 1
{
&WinL1OvtLmp = 1
&WinL2OvtLmp = 1
&WinR1OvtLmp = 1
&WinR2OvtLmp = 1
&WinL1OnLmp = 0
&WinL2OnLmp = 0
&WinR1OnLmp = 0
&WinR2OnLmp = 0
}
ELSE
{
&WinL1OvtLmp = 0
&WinL2OvtLmp = 0
&WinR1OvtLmp = 0
&WinR2OvtLmp = 0
}
IF &WndHeatL1_OnSw = 1
{
&WinL1OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinL1OnLmp = 0
}
IF &WndHeatR1_OnSw = 1
{
&WinR1OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinR1OnLmp = 0
}
IF &WndHeatL2_OnSw = 1
{
&WinL2OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinL2OnLmp = 0
}
IF &WndHeatR2_OnSw = 1
{
&WinR2OnLmp = 1
}
ELSE
{
&WinR2OnLmp = 0
}
}
}

Var 2421, name WingAILTstSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 130 // Wing Anti Ice Left Test Switch
// VJ64, SW21
{
IF &GroundStatus = 1 // If aircraft is on ground
{
IF &WingAILTstSw = 1
{
&StatValveAIWL = 0
&StatValveAIWL = DELAY 1 ,300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 *
}
ELSE
{
&StatValveAIWL = 0
}
}
}

Var 2422, name WingAILOpenSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 131 // Wing Anti Ice Left Open Switch
{
IF &GroundStatus = 0 // If aircraft is in the Air
{
IF &WingAILOpenSw = 1
{
&StatValveAIWL = 0
&StatValveAIWL = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
ELSE
{
&StatValveAIWL = 0
&StatValveAIWL = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
}
}

Var 2423, name WingAIRTstSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 128 // Wing Anti Ice Right Test Switch
{
IF &GroundStatus = 1 // If aircraft is on ground
{
IF &WingAIRTstSw = 1
{
&StatValveAIWR = 0
&StatValveAIWR = DELAY 1 ,300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 *
}
ELSE
{
&StatValveAIWR = 0
}
}
}

Var 2424, name WingAIROpenSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 129 // Wing Anti Ice Right Open Switch
{
IF &GroundStatus = 0 // If aircraft is in the Air
{
IF &WingAILOpenSw = 1
{
&StatValveAIWR = 0
&StatValveAIWR = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
ELSE
{
&StatValveAIWR = 0
&StatValveAIWR = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
}
}


Var 2425, name Eng1AIOnSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 138 // Engine 1 Anti Ice On Switch
{
IF &Eng1AIOnSw = 1
{
&StatValveAIE1 = 0
&StatValveAIE1 = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
ELSE
{
&StatValveAIE1 = 0
&StatValveAIE1 = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
}


Var 2426, name Eng2AIOnSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 137 // Engine 2 Anti Ice On Switch
{
IF &Eng2AIOnSw = 1
{
&StatValveAIE2 = 0
&StatValveAIE2 = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
ELSE
{
&StatValveAIE2 = 0
&StatValveAIE2 = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
}

Var 2427, name Eng3AIOnSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 242 // Engine 3 Anti Ice On Switch
// VJ64, SW27
{
IF &Eng3AIOnSw = 1
{
&StatValveAIE3 = 0
&StatValveAIE3 = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
ELSE
{
&StatValveAIE3 = 0
&StatValveAIE3 = DELAY 1 300 // Returns to State 1 after delay of 300 * 10 msec
}
}

Var 2428, name ValvPSelLeftSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 134 // Valve Position Selector Left Switch; ??????
{
IF &ValvPSelLeftSw = 1
{
CALL &EngValvAgrSub // Engine Valve Agreement Subroutine
&VJ64 = SETBIT 28
}
ELSE
{
CALL &AIValvOffSub // Valve Agreement Lights Off Subroutine (Checks, if Switch is in Off Position)
&VJ64 = CLEARBIT 28
}
}

Var 2429, name ValvPSelCowlSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 133 // Valve Position Selector Cowl Switch
{
IF &ValvPSelCowlSw = 1
{
CALL &EngValvAgrSub
&VJ64 = SETBIT 29
}
ELSE
{
CALL &AIValvOffSub
&VJ64 = CLEARBIT 29
}
}

Var 2430, name ValvPSelRgtSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 132 // Valve Position Selector Right Switch
{
IF &ValvPSelRgtSw = 1
{
CALL &EngValvAgrSub
&VJ64 = SETBIT 30
}
ELSE
{
CALL &AIValvOffSub
&VJ64 = CLEARBIT 30
}
}

Var 2431, name ValvPSelWingSw, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 135 // Valve Position Selector Wing Switch
{
IF &ValvPSelWingSw = 1
{
CALL &WingValvAgrSub
&VJ64 = SETBIT 31
}
ELSE
{
CALL &AIValvOffSub
&VJ64 = CLEARBIT 31
}
}

// ****************************************************************************************************************************************
// **************** Anti Ice **********************************
// ****************************************************************************************************************************************

// ************************ Determination of Anti Ice Wing / Engine VAlve Argreement Lights ***********************************************

Var 6101, name EngValvAgrSub, Link SUBRUTINE // Engine Valve Agreement Subroutine
{
IF &Electricity > 0 // If Electricity is available
{
IF &ValvPSelLeftSw = 1
{
&EngLAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE1
&EngCAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE2
&EngRAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE3
&WngLAIPosLmp = 0
&WngRAIPosLmp = 0
}
ELSE
{
IF &ValvPSelCowlSw = 1
{
&EngLAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE1
&EngCAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE2
&EngRAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE3
&WngLAIPosLmp = 0
&WngRAIPosLmp = 0
}
ELSE
{
IF &ValvPSelRgtSw = 1
{
&EngLAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE1
&EngCAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE2
&EngRAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIE3
&WngLAIPosLmp = 0
&WngRAIPosLmp = 0
}
ELSE
{
&EngLAIPosLmp = 0
&EngCAIPosLmp = 0
&EngRAIPosLmp = 0
}
}
}
}
}

Var 6102, name WingValvAgrSub, Link SUBRUTINE // Wing Valve Agreement Subroutine
{
IF &Electricity > 0 // If Electricity is available
{
IF &ValvPSelWingSw = 1
{
&WngLAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIWL
&WngRAIPosLmp = &StatValveAIWR
&EngLAIPosLmp = 0
&EngCAIPosLmp = 0
&EngRAIPosLmp = 0
}
}
}

Var 6103, name AIValvOffSub, Link SUBRUTINE // Agreement Light Switch Off Subroutine
{
IF &ValvPSelLeftSw = 0
{
IF &ValvPSelCowlSw = 0
{
IF &ValvPSelRgtSw = 0
{
IF &ValvPSelWingSw = 0
{
&WngLAIPosLmp = 0
&WngRAIPosLmp = 0
&EngLAIPosLmp = 0
&EngCAIPosLmp = 0
&EngRAIPosLmp = 0
}
}
}
}
}

[AVIATor-Olav]

WOW! You're light years ahead of me. I haven't gotten to the point where output cards control lights and what not. I haven't even got an output card yet. My window heat lights work like this: switch ON -> green light ON. Very simple ;) The over heat lights are not hooked up. I don't know but I dont think the over heat lights are modeled in the DF727? will they ever light up, unless you press the test button?


Thanks and best regards
Tor

[LH784]

I have no idea when they will light up - probably you would have to program something like that (e.g. light up after a certain time if outside temp is above a given value and heat is on for that long).
I spent some time in writing the SIOC code. On the other hand, you have already overtaken me in such a shourt time as far as the hardware is concerned, I'm indeed impressed.
If you need some more codes, please let me know.
Best, Florian

[AVIATor-Olav]

Time for a small update.

Finally got a juicy enough 5v power supply
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0722.jpg

Getting cozy :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0723.jpg

John from Ruscool in New Zealand has been kind enough to design and build me a retro radio stack. He's been hard at work for a few weeks, here's a few pictures of the prototypes. Btw. he might offer these as a new product on his website in the future for anyone interested.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/727_ADF_Prototype_-_Pic_2_-_General_placement.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/727_Transponder_Prototype_-_Pic_3_-_Basic_Layout.jpg

Here's a picture of a finished NAV/COMM panel.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0719.jpg

Will look very authentic with white digits!:)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/Small_File_08885.jpg

Thanks to Castle on the forum, my newly aquired TQ has made it's way from Colorado to Pennsylvania. It's currently being loaded in a container along wih my glare shield and will cross the pond in my direction over the next few weeks
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/DSC00039.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/2012-01-23_110619.jpg

Yesterday I got these off e-bay! :P Ships in from France.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/KGrHqNlkE8HPTfmIBPRK7WubcQ60_12.jpg

Cheers!

[Stijn]

Awesome!! nothing more to say


Stijn

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks a lot Stijn! How's your project coming along?

[Stijn]

Waiting for some electronics i orderd for the MIP, when I hook them up the MIP is finished. The pedestal is finished and the throttle quadrant is comming along nicely.

A lot of small things need to be done, hope to assemble everything next month.

I will upload some pic's this weekend.

Stijn

[AVIATor-Olav]

Cool, can't wait to see some pictures! Have you interfaced a real TQ?

[AVIATor-Olav]

Got all he lights for the audio select panel hooked up today. The switches I need are interfaced, and ready to plug into my input card. There's something very rewarding about breathing new life into these old components! :)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0725.jpg

[Stijn]

no, don't have the money for that, just a student ;)

Stijn

[AVIATor-Olav]

Have you built one? I initially thought of doing that, but I came across a real one at a reasonable price so I decided to get it!

[Stijn]

yeah, just finished the 3 throttle levers.


It's not easy and i'm not that skilled so i have to exclude some functions, for example: only one revers-lever is interfaced, so i cant revers engines individually.

I build as many as I can from scratch, and when i stumble across some real components for a good price I will add them in my project.

Stijn

[LH784]

Hi,

perhaps I can convince you to start with SIOC :-)

Here is my code for the audio selector - with me it works.


// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Audio Selector
// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Var 3500, name FO_AudioSelect, Link FSUIPC_OUT Offset $3122, Length 1 // Audio Selector except ADF2, 2^7 COM1 transmit, 2^6 COM2 transmit, 2^5 COM receive both, 2^4 NAV1 sound, 2^3 NAV2 sound, 2^2 Marker sound, 2^1 DME sound, 2^0 ADF1 sound

Var 3501, name FO_AudSelADF2, Link FSUIPC_OUT Offset $02FB, Length 1 // Audio Selector ADF2, 1 = on, 0 = off

Var 3510, name AudSel_ADF1_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 275 // Audio Selector Switch ADF1
{
IF &AudSel_ADF1_SW = 1
{
&FO_AudioSelect = SETBIT 0
}
ELSE
{
&FO_AudioSelect = CLEARBIT 0
}
}

Var 3511, name AudSel_DME_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 270 // Audio Selector Switch DME
{
IF &AudSel_DME_SW = 1
{
&FO_AudioSelect = SETBIT 1
}
ELSE
{
&FO_AudioSelect = CLEARBIT 1
}
}

Var 3512, name AudSel_MKR_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 272 // Audio Selector Switch Marker
{
IF &AudSel_MKR_SW = 1
{
&FO_AudioSelect = SETBIT 2
}
ELSE
{
&FO_AudioSelect = CLEARBIT 2
}
}

Var 3513, name AudSel_NAV2_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 273 // Audio Selector Switch NAV2
{
IF &AudSel_NAV2_SW = 1
{
&FO_AudioSelect = SETBIT 3
}
ELSE
{
&FO_AudioSelect = CLEARBIT 3
}
}

Var 3514, name AudSel_NAV1_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 271 // Audio Selector Switch NAV1
{
IF &AudSel_NAV1_SW = 0
{
&FO_AudioSelect = SETBIT 4
}
ELSE
{
&FO_AudioSelect = CLEARBIT 4
}
}

Var 3515, name AudSel_COM2_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 277 // Audio Selector Switch COMM2
{
CALL &AudSelComm_Sub
}

Var 3516, name AudSel_COM1_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 278 // Audio Selector Switch COMM1
{
CALL &AudSelComm_Sub
}

Var 3517, name AudSel_ADF2_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 274 // Audio Selector Switch ADF2
{
&FO_AudSelADF2 = &AudSel_ADF2_SW
}

Var 3518, name AudSel_VHF3_SW, Link IOCARD_SW, Device 1, Input 276 // Audio Selector Switch VHF3, used as "Both", temporary solution
{
IF &AudSel_VHF3_SW = 1
{
&FO_AudioSelect = SETBIT 7 // Transmit COMM1
&FO_AudioSelect = SETBIT 5 // Receive Both
&FO_AudioSelect = CLEARBIT 6 // Clear Transmit COMM2
}
ELSE
{
&FO_AudioSelect = CLEARBIT 7 // Clear Transmit COMM1
&FO_AudioSelect = CLEARBIT 5 // Clear Receive Both
&FO_AudioSelect = SETBIT 6 // Transmit COMM2
}
}

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi Florian.

I'm sure I'll have to get an output card and SIOC very soon, but my audio selector works flawlessly. The switches have two poles. One side controls the green lights (switch on-> green light on) the other side is hooked up to an input card and are assigned in FSUIPC to operate the various audio selections.

[LH784]

:-)
Never change a running system - I wouldn't do it either.
For this code you only need an input card - it only addresses the respective FSIUPC offsets (for COM, NAV, ADF, Markers...).
There is no Output related since mine does not have any illuminating lamps when I switch things on.

Regards,
Florian

[AVIATor-Olav]

These showed up today:)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0076-1.jpg

Whoever pulled these from the plane cut the wires very close to the column! I've managed to solder extensions to the shortest cables, so I think I'll be able to save them.
Does anyone know the color codes? Gotta figure out which cables go to wich switch.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0079-1.jpg

My landing gear lever showed up today as well! (Thanks Geremy:))
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0081.jpg

I'm in way too deep now! :D
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/seatsF.jpg

[Geremy Britton]

Hi Tor, Looking very good!! Keep up the great work, these are the sort of threads we all love to see.
All the best

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks Geremy! :) I'll try to keep up the progress reports. Things are going to slow down a bit with the sim as we approach summer I'm afraid. To many other projects to finish up.

[AVIATor-Olav]

Landing gear handle mounted and interfaced.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0083.jpg

Without flash.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0091.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

New addition to the sim! :D
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0093.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0096.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0094.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0101.jpg

I've done some design work on the yoke mechanism as well.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/steeringmechanism1.jpg

Full forward
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/steeringmechanism2.jpg

Pull up!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/steeringmechanism3.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/steeringmechanism4.jpg

[daveaust]

Amazing. Nice to see 727's being built up.

[AVIATor-Olav]

Well, been a while since the last update. I've been busy with other projects lately, and by the look of things it's going to stay that way for a while. I hope to get back on track and steaming along with the sim after the summer. Anyways, my TQ and the glare shield arrived today. I had a good look at your pictures daveaust, from your TQ refurb. Amazing job. I can see I have a bit of work ahead of me. Mine looks very much like yours did in the early photos. Hopefully I'll be able to put some work into it over the spring and summer. I'll post a few photos of the new arrivals soon.

[daveaust]

Tor, yes the 727TQ was a dirty job but it sure was addicting once I got started. I have one major tip. The easiest cleaner for 40+ years of grease/lint buildup is this $1 a bottle orange-oxy cleaner I get from what we call "dollar stores" around here. It works way better than 409, windex, etc. It sprays on and just melts the gunk. The best part is that is rinses right off with H2O and you end up with sparkly squeaky clean parts that are perfect. I gently scrape where the thick grease is then use it. The rinsing action is the best feature. I re-lubed things with white lithium grease(no moly) and it so far seems smooth as feathers. BTW the first time I tested the TQ, it was night and day even between my cool throttletek TQ. I was amazing how I "seemed" to have better skills just by using the real thing. Then again I guess that's why they use real TQ's on real planes?!? Just kidding... enjoy and hit me if you have any questions specific to the 727 unit since I lived inside mine for a month and a half daily! I look forward to you photos.
dave

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks for the tip Dave. I have no idea if I can find that product over here though.
I do have a question with regards to disassembly though. How did you get all the levers out? I have the right side of the TQ disassembled (it actualy came that way) More to the point the side panel, flap an friction levers are disassembles as well as the gear and axle for the trim wheels. But I don't see how to go from there, you know how does the thrust levers and start levers come out?

Thanks for any pointers
Tor

[AVIATor-Olav]

The radios are ready. Will ship after Easter. Great retro look I think! :)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/Boeing727RadioSet-Pic6.jpg

[skyline223]

Those look fantastic! I would love to have those in my 727 sim! Let me know when he starts making them in numbers!

[Quartermaster340]

They look very good. In fact we have a 707 cockpit in our university thats being converted to a 737NG. The radios look quite similar - i think though the panels in our one were black. and of course the rotating numbers on the display as it wasnt electronic but i think youd need a electronic engineering degree to do that.

[daveaust]

Tor, you're almost there getting the thrust levers and start levers out. Mine were a bit tight so keep that in mind. Once the right side frame is off and Flap/Friction parts are out of the way (where you are), the thrust levers ride on that main shaft. It basically slides out from left to right. Use something like a wood piece and tap the the large hollow shaft from the left side (make sure you have the left nut off of the left side of course). There is a small square shaft in the notch of the larger hollow main shaft on the outside left. It keeps the hollow main shaft/axle from just spinning when the large locknut is tightened. That little guy is also is what makes the main shaft tight upon dis-assembly and reassembly. You had one on the right too and probably remember it. Of note I filed my small square shafts down a bit so the reentry/exit force was less. When the main shaft slides out you must keep walking the individual thrust/start levers off to prevent binding. ALso do not forget to mark each piece coming off including spacers- there are 2 different sizes and their position gets confusing when you reassemble. My diagram sucked and I ended up studying my pics to get it back together right. I used lithium grease for a cleaner long-term lube. You can also take out the start lever cams down below simply by pulling the shaft down below via screws on right/left access. Again mark these and do not do what I did: wash the marks off when cleaning. It causes more pain. Btw I added a new shaft and pulley to the lower right cage for the flaps cable. I used a nice composite wheel with bearings from the lower cable-out section that I wasnt going to use. The bullet-proof start switches should be good to go in yours too. I left out the internal plastic flaps switch lever to leave room for my linear flaps pot. Just remember you may have to really bang on the main shaft to get it out but once it's started just watch all the internals riding on that shaft and it should start walking out. Mine was very tight but I knew my force was in the right direction. Also- do not remove the inner partition between the two main shaft spaces, just leave it. It's fine where it is... dave

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks Dave! I did actually figure out how to disassemble the thrust levers before I was off for the hollydays last week. I've got the Trust levers out now, still need to pull the start levers out. The right side of the shaft was allready dis-assembled when I got the TQ. Infact I miss the large nut for the right side unfortunately. I guess I have to come up with some ingenuity to get the thing back together. Spare parts are definately not available from my local hard ware store!

I'll try to dis-assmble the rest of it today and start cleaning it. I'll try to take a few pics as well.

Thanks again for your tips and tricks Dave!


Tor

[AVIATor-Olav]

Did some dirty work today, but the TQ turned out a little cleaner at least!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0105.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0104.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0107.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0108.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0109.jpg
Some of the TQ panels and parts
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0106.jpg
Got the "lid" at the back off as well which was a bit of a moment.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0110.jpg
I put one of the thrust levers back in to try to figure out how and where to put the pots. Still has me thinking! HARD!!!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0111.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0112.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

Time for a new update.
I've made some pulleys and brackets for the throttle pots
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0776.jpg
Mounted inside the TQ
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0778.jpg
Control cables hooked up. I hope this works!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0780.jpg
The radios have arrived! :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0773.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0774.jpg
Starting to resemble a TQ again. A bit of fresh paint and it'll be like new! I hope! :/
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0785.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0786.jpg

[vidarf]

Am I jealous??? YES! :)

Good work! Are you going to motorize the TQ?

[AVIATor-Olav]

Nono, no such thing in the 727! :P

Prøvde å sende deg en IM på simnor for litt siden ;)

[AVIATor-Olav]

New paint applied :D
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0113.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0115.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0116.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0118.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0122.jpg
[http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0123.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0125.jpg
Radio bay filled up!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0130.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0132.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0133.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

Pots and most of the switches interfaced.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0138.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0140.jpg
The potentiometer mechanism I constructed works like a charm. I get nearly full travel on the throttle pots.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0139.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

Got the radios up and running the other night, as well powering up the TQ light plates.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0814.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0813.jpg

Still need to back light the radio panels. Progress is slow at the moment due to house projects.

[Quartermaster340]

Tor, you are progressing really well!

If you have some time to spare, could you explain to me how exactly the reversers are interfaced with your system? I have seen a 707 TQ and the reverser is connected to the same "pulley-type wheel" as the throttle connected to which is connected to some gears and then a pot, however I was not able to see how the reverser and normal lever can move independantly of each other.

its rather difficult to explain, but I hope you understand what i mean!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi. I know exactly what you mean, and the explanation is very simple. They don't move independantly. A portion of the pot travel is asigned for reversers in FSUIPC. :)

[Quartermaster340]

but how do you build that into the throttle lever?, the main lever moves the "pulley wheel" which is connected by some means to the pot, but when you use the reverser handle, the same wheel moves the same pot... how are the levers made so that both levers can control the same pulley wheel?

[AVIATor-Olav]

There's a linkage arm connected to the reverser lever which runs down inside the throttle lever. In the other end the linkage arm is connected to the pulley wheel out of centre. When the throttle is at idle and you pull the reverser up, the linkage arm pulls the pulley wheel with it beyond the idle position. I hope that was readable! :)

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi all.

Just checking in to let you know I haven't perished or anything. :) Progress is still slow due to other commitments, but hey that's life I guess. Come August/September and that will all change!:) I have been able to do a few flights recently with a very limited set up to get some experience with my TQ and the radio stack. Everything works, but I do have some trouble calibrating the flap lever. It works fine the first few detents, but then when I hit flap 25 nothing happens, When I go to flap 30 I get 25 and so on. If anyone has some insight please let me know. Also; picked this up a the post office today :P
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/bilde1.jpg
Does anyone know the correct voltage for the Korrys?

[vidarf]

Dude, I need to find out the location of your sim. And pay it a "visit". Does anybody have a conversion kit for a 727 TQ to a NG style? :D

Cool stuff!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Don't think I dare tell you now! I may find my TQ is missing one of these days! :D
I'm way south of you though dude!

Cheers!

[Perik]

Hello Tor-Olav

I think I know how it is for the 757/767 and I'm surprised if different for 727,
but you never know:

28V DC and 12V DC when dimmed.

BTW - you have a great project going on. Nice to follow!!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks Per-Erik.

Your project is truly amazing! My approach to simbuilding is a lot simpler than what you've got going on! Hats off!

[Perik]

Thx, Tor-Olav

Nothing beats you guys going real. I would have done the same if the finance allowed such a move.
So my approach is quite opposite – how cheap is it possible to build with some kind of real look & feel.
It’s doable with a huge amount of hours and I may be finished before “game over”. ;)

Happy building – fun it is!!!

[AVIATor-Olav]

It sure is expensive all right. Having said that though I haven't really spent that much on this hobby. Compared to a few mates of mine that are into cars, snowmobiles, motorcycles etc. this is peanuts! Wouldn't even cover the expense of the tool box required to restore an old car! :) That's how I chose to look at it anyway!

[LH784]

Yes, the Korry bulbs need 28V, 24V is fine, don't know how bright they are at 12 V.
Great project, Florian

[Per Alm]

Amazing work!!!

[roppeca]

Wooow!!!...this is deja-vu jeje...beautiful MIP , beautiful plane...nice work , go ahead...greetings from Mexico !

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks everybody for your kind words. Progress has been slow lately due to other projects, but I have been able to put in some work every now and then. I've finally sourced the #1,2 & 3 fire handles. I had to do some repairs on them, but they are now installed in my glare panel. I'm also doing some detailing on my MIP at the moment. Will upload pictures soon!

Cheers!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Time for a small update! I've been working on some details on MIP lately. The pictures are horrendous I know, and they really don't do the panels justice, but here goes anyway:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0899.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0900.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0901.jpg

Still a few things need to be added, but it's certainly starting to look the part! :)

[roppeca]

Horrendous photos ?..forget about it ! When you see that beautiful MIP , its not only a dream...its reality jeje...you got it !!!

[AVIATor-Olav]

My sim room is starting to take shape. The base is nearly finished and the curved screen is getting there.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0905.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0907.jpg

Look honey, I built you a walk in closet! :-P

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0906.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

Things are definately coming back together

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0198.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0195.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0199.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0192.jpg

I finally sourced some fire handles! :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0202.jpg

My custom made annunciators are in place. These are clear plexi glass which I have painted black around the edges. Annunciators displayed on the LCD screens will light through the plexi glass and will hopefully resemble the real deal.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0193.jpg

The sim room is coming together as well!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0196.jpg

It's been a long day, I'll kick back with a glass of wine now! Cheers!

[AVIATor-Olav]

I've been working on the steering mechanism lately. After a few tweaks it works about right. I haven't done any interfacing yet though.
Probably not the most elaborate piece of engineering, but it's simple and it works. No spring return on the ailerons yet, but the gas struts centers the elevator nicely.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0204_zps0b1fc1b6.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0205_zpsef9fe321.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0206_zps09201c46.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0209_zpscad41614.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0211_zps842d4550.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0212_zpsa47d0039.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

The window frames are taking shape. Lots of measurements, angles and sawdust to make that happen!!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0216_zps09fb54ec.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0213_zps390415e1.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0214_zpse6d538be.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0215_zpsd5eb56d7.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

The curved wall is up. By far the most difficult part of the build thus far! 3 layers of paint, and I'm still not happy with the finish!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0220.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0218.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0217.jpg

[roppeca]

Eager to see your FOV in that curved screen...I'm following that amazing work since Mexico...go ahead !

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi Roppeca.

The curved screen is 220 degrees. I only have one projector as of yet though, so I won't have to much of a wrap around view just yet. More projectors to be added later.

[AVIATor-Olav]

The over head panel is back up! :)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0221.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0224.jpg

[roppeca]

State of Art...wowww!

[AVIATor-Olav]

TQ in place
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0226.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0227.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0229.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0228.jpg
an old 17" screen for INS, WX radar, etc.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0230.jpg

[Matt Olieman]

Nice job!!!! Thanks for the pics :) :) :)

Matt Olieman

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks for your kind words Matt! Still a lot of details that need to go in, but I should be able to start up and test fly the sim soon! :)

[roppeca]

From Cold and Dark Cockpit to Take Off Procedures !!!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Been working on the side walls lately. It's going to take some filler and sanding before they're ready for paint!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0233.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0232.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

I finished the interfacing of my Yoke mechanism this evening. Calibrated it and did my first flight since the rebuild. Both Yokes and TQ works really well. Still a bit of tweaking needs to be done to the flap lever calibration, but everything else works perfectly! I have to get on with the side walls and ceiling now. Pictures to come soon.

[roppeca]

Eager to see that pictures...nice flights , happy landings !!!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Heres a few pics for you.
Been busy interfacing and assingning axes and buttons so I haven't really been building much lately. At least it's flyable now! :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0236.jpg
In this pic you can see the eyebrow window structure I struggled with last week! What a nightmare to make!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0239.jpg
The annunciators light up nicely through the plexi pieces I had made
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0243.jpg
Got my oxy panels and my landing gear mechanism today. Thanks Geremy! :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0240.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0241.jpg
Can't believe how big this thing is!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0242.jpg

[Geremy Britton]

This sim is really coming to life now! Thanks for these fantastic updates, and i'm glad you found the parts you bought from us useful :)

All the best

[AVIATor-Olav]

Been busy setting everything up and making it work lately. Big mistake, I don't get any building done now! :P

The warping is very temporary. Need to do it more accurate
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0246.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0250.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0253.jpg
Only one projector for the visuals yet. Will probably stay that way for while too.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0249.jpg
My Ruscool radios work like a charm.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0252.jpg
Got the angeled panel with rotaries and switches hooked up the other day
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0247-1.jpg

[roppeca]

Wooowww ! Wooowww ! Olav...beautiful FOV with only one projector...using 3 , widesceen view ! , what about your first flight ?...always adjusting throttle and pitch to maintain a constant velocity ? jeje ...as a real 727 flight deck...Bravo !!!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks for your nice comment roppeca!

The cockpit liners are progressing.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0255.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0254.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0257.jpg

The 5th monitor for operating all the panels I don't have hardware for yet is finally up and running
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0279.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

Just finished skinning the inside of my shell.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0280.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0282.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0283.jpg
Lots of funny angels to consider here!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0284.jpg

[daveaust]

Very very sweet! What material did you use for the ceiling to get you the flex? I'm just getting ready to do my ceiling panels now that I have both eyebrow window liners. I have been aligning them with the overhead. So far they fit in spite of the fact I've had to modify the side window and wall angles to fit my narrower outside box. It will be good enough for my inexact platform tho... Dave

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi Dave. The material is 4mm MDF.


Tor

[AVIATor-Olav]

The shell is done! :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0288.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0287.jpg

[daveaust]

Thanks I just got some of the mdf and made some ceiling panels. It seemed to work quite well. It's easy to cut but has a durable feel too.

[AVIATor-Olav]

Good to hear Dave. As long as it doesn't get wet the mdf should hold up quite well.

Getting everything together now! :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0299.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0300.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0309.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0303.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0306.jpg
Celebrations are in order!:-D
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/CIMG0296.jpg

[roppeca]

Beer + Turbosina = The perfect match !

[phil.]

hello,
how did you wire up the outer marker lights, what kind of board ?
phil.

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi Phil.

They are not wired up yet. Still waiting for my Ruscool outputs card


Tor

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi all. It's been a while since the last update. Been too busy flying lately! ;)
Here are a few vids from the sim.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrPlpWmn864&feature=g-high-lik

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hmm, only one video pr post apparently

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGS67giWH2E&feature=g-high-lik

[AVIATor-Olav]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGS67giWH2E&feature=g-high-lik

[lasseh]

Wow!! This is really looking amazing Tor-Olav! :) Remember the EGT gauges i asked you about some time ago? Did you find out which ones you're using?

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi Lasse. Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you.I had to reinstall FSPS to retrieve the file names of my EGT guages. Anyways they are from the Aerosoft 727. The file name is AS_CLF2_B2.gau (EGT1, EGT2 and EGT3)

Hope that helps.

Best regards and Merry Christmas to everyone!
Tor-Olav

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi everybody, it's been a while since my last update. Not much has happened to the sim lately, but a few additions have been put in. Got hold of two map lights off e-bay recently.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0952_zpsb52d620a.jpg

I've had the pneumatic brake handle laying around for ages. Finaly got it mounted. I've hooked the handle up to a rotary switch, so I should be able to have it work with the sim as well

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0953_zps74c1ee20.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0954_zps4c61183f.jpg

[Anderson/SBSP]

Great Sim!! The best one!!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks a lot for your generous compliment Anderson! There are certainly other cockpits featured in these forums way up and beyond my project, but thanks anyway! :)

Tor

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi all.

I've been playing with my Ruscool outputs card lately. Here's a video of the current state of the sim:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1VItauV9sw

[roppeca]

Thanks for that video...really a masterpiece of cockpit , can I fly with you jeje...you go it !

[AVIATor-Olav]

I finally got my hand on some plastic wings under the glare shield! :)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0982_zpsd7f5a5a0.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0983_zps1c46e48f.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0989_zps52df2364.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0990_zps46b4c665.jpg

Got one of these to!

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0985_zps7f057e0f.jpg

Mounted, but not hooked up to the outputs card yet.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_0988_zps143e4be0.jpg

[roppeca]

Bravo !!!. you have now a real 727-200 home cockpit with no FMC , no L Nav / V Nav , no Autoland , no Autothrottle jejeje ! Doing all that procedures as a real pilots do !...Congratulations and Happy Landings !!!

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi all. Been a while since the last update. No big updates to report, but a few smaller things like various outputs have been put in and and configured. Last night I made a bass shaker out of an old 15" speaker. I mounted it under the floor below my seat.
Gives some decent vibrations as I roar down the runway! :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_1017_zpseae2de1a.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_1018_zps4b7fa198.jpg

Oh, and these are in the mail! ;)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/FEstation_zpse3dd7e21.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/seatSO_zps262b44c1.jpg

[AVIATor-Olav]

I picked this up at the post office today. A complete FE AUX panel off e-bay! :)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_1066_zps87673529.jpg

Too soon?
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_1064_zpse6ff0d84.jpg

[Geremy Britton]

Like the last photo Tor! Your progress is also looking great, thanks for all the photos. :)
Keep up the good work,
Regards

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks Geremy! That's my son. He's 2 weeks old tomorrow! :)

Cheers!
Tor

[roppeca]

Hi Tor...nice work !...Really your first officer is ready to fly !...God bless your son !

[AVIATor-Olav]

The latest additions to the sim arrived today! I see some late Nights of soldering Ahead!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_1080_zpsc1aa5a68.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/Paganize/media/IMG_1080_zpsc1aa5a68.jpg.html)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_1081_zpsd147eb2c.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/Paganize/media/IMG_1081_zpsd147eb2c.jpg.html)

Sorry the images are horrible.

[Avro748]

You should submit this to builder of the month. We haven't had one in a while.

[AVIATor-Olav]

I don't like the idea of submitting my own project. If the people responsible for builder of the month are interested they know how to get in touch with me.

No progress on the sim lately, too many other things need attention in the spring! The new baby don't help matters either! Lol

[Geremy Britton]

I was the last co-ordinator of Builder of the Month as part of my role at MyCockpit.org, but had to step down due to an increase in business commitments.

It may be a good time to look for an addition to our team that would be able to fulfil this gap.

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi everybody! It's been a long time since the last update. Nothing much has happened in the sim either. Building wise that is, it has seen some flying. The work on the FE station has begun. The first 4 panels are interfaced and ready to go in. 29 panels to go! :) http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/bilde_zpsfeb37f93.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/Paganize/media/bilde_zpsfeb37f93.jpg.html)

[roppeca]

Hi Mate...we are follow you , go ahead !

[Avro748]

In terms of the gauges on the F/E Panel, will they be motorized or on a monitor?

Keep up the good work!

[GPreddy]

Looking great! I've always loved the 727, so I'll just enjoy it vicariously through your pictures.
Keep it up!

Steve

[AVIATor-Olav]

In terms of the gauges on the F/E Panel, will they be motorized or on a monitor?

Keep up the good work!

The gauges will be inop. They'll be lit along with the light plates but that's it. I'll Interface the switches and the lights though. All switches will be assigned through FSUIPC and I'll have to write a SIOC script to light the lamps. The SIOC bit is new to me, and it will for sure take some thinking to get right! Thanks everybody for Your interest! :)

[Henju]

Hi
Great job... keep up the good work, are you considering using analog interfaced gauges instead of using LCD's?

Henri

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi
Great job... keep up the good work, are you considering using analog interfaced gauges instead of using LCD's?

Henri
Hi Henri. No I'm not considering that. As much as I'd love to have real guages in my pit, I consider it too much work to Interface them. Gotta draw the line somewhere.

[Henju]

Yeah;)
Hopefully with my 737Classic I can implement some Real gauges Your pit has inspired me to turn different corners with my planning.
Henri

[dc8flightdeck]

Hi Henri. No I'm not considering that. As much as I'd love to have real guages in my pit, I consider it too much work to Interface them. Gotta draw the line somewhere.

I decided the same with my DC-8. Ill fill the engineers station for display and use monitors behind the pilot's panels.

I have a lot of moving guages in the f-4 and 737-200 sims, and that is good enough for me.

[Avro748]

I heard that JustFlight came out with a DC8. I wonder if maybe they've improved since their crap Viscount, Tristar, Comet, Constellation, and DC6. It actually looks half decent this time. I wonder if the systems simulation is as good as they say it is.

[AVIATor-Olav]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IgTkPZAri9M It's been too long since the last update! Haven't done much building lately, but the sim is frequently used. I recently bought the Kai Tak scenery from Flytampa, and here's a video of me flying the full IGS rwy 13 approach. :)Cheers!Edit: I put the right link in. Don't know why it turned out wrong the first time??

[Avro748]

Nice. I can't wait to get back to work on mine.

Just out of curiosity, where do you source your gauge monitors from?
How do you ensure the best size and the right fit for your panel?

[Lazarus]

Awesome project, great to see real parts in there, preservation of aviation history! :cool:

[AVIATor-Olav]

Nice. I can't wait to get back to work on mine.

Just out of curiosity, where do you source your gauge monitors from?
How do you ensure the best size and the right fit for your panel?
The captain and FO instruments are on Samsung Syncmasters 21,3" with aspect ratio 4:3. I got these second hand off the net. The engine guages are on an old Samsung 19" in portrait mode. I've had this screen for ages. I found that 4:3 aspect ratio worked best behind my panels. These are hard to come by nowadays though, I have a second set of Syncmasters lying around incase the ones I use now should break down

Awesome project, great to see real parts in there, preservation of aviation history! :cool:
Thanks for the Nice Words! :)

[AVIATor-Olav]

It's been a while since I posted in this thread. Not much progress to report as far as building goes, but fear not, the sim is regularly beeing enjoyed! :) Here's one of several videos I've recorded lately.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPeFmrTGFAo

[Avro748]

Could you upload a video showing the F/E panel in action?

[AVIATor-Olav]

I could, but it would be rubbish as the FE panel isn't up yet! :/
Hopefully I'll get it up and running this fall.

[skyline223]

I'm doing my random stop in to check out to progress on your seven two... It is really coming along!! Congratulations on all the progress so far. I'll be watching as you begin the task of interfacing your S/O panel.. that is still something I need to tackle in my 727.

[AVIATor-Olav]

Hi there. Not much progress to report I'm afraid, been too busy with other things lately. I will however get back on track with my build, and I'll surely update this thread as soon as I do!!
How is your sim coming along? Haven't seen any updates lately. Gotta keep those 72's flying!

Cheers!

[Avro748]

What about project Backcountry? There haven't been any pictures in a while. I'd love to hear how it's coming along.

[meatbomber]

Absolutely love tis 727 :) Great job!

[AVIATor-Olav]

It has been ages since the last update. Here's a picture of the sim after landing in Manchester this evening. The FE station is up, and I've added a second projector for a wider field of view.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsrowlvhry.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/Paganize/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsrowlvhry.jpg.html)

still lots of work needs to go into the FE station. Some panels and gauges are lit up though, and it is really decorative! :)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsr2s11v1c.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/Paganize/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsr2s11v1c.jpg.html)

[Avgas110]

Hi there,

Looking great, I am in New Zealand and I just recently met a guy who was selling his 727-212 (complete with all real parts) Simulator.

It was being decommissioned, so, he let me go through and take what I wanted, I got what I wanted and I now have complete panels, gauges, etc... from the real aircraft sitting in my shed waiting for a new home.

I am looking to sell on eBay but if there is any interest here I could work something out.

Let me know if you have any interest.

Cheers,
Kelvin

[blueskydriver]

Hey Kelvin,

What do you have? How about posting them with pics in the MYC Classifieds section?

John

[Avgas110]

Hey Kelvin,

What do you have? How about posting them with pics in the MYC Classifieds section?

John

I'll get some pics up, I was just gouging interest to start with.

I have cdu Bay modules with weather radar, cdu's, engineer panels, many lights, whole bunch of switches, auto pilot modules, and a load of other bits and bobs.

[AVIATor-Olav]

Thanks for posting!
I'd be interested in cdu bay modules as I have no real stuff to put in it as of now. Infact I'd love to go for a full real MIP with steam gauges and the lot, but it's to much of an undertaking I feel. I don't have the funds for it at the time either. Please let me know what you want for the cdu modules though.

On a different note, this thread has been quiet for a while. The Sim is currently being converted to X-plane and the FJS 727. I'm designing and coding new instruments using Air Manager. This allows the instruments to be displayed on a client PC. This is a huge improvement to the sim as the work load is now distributed across a network of computers as opposed to the single PC set up I used to have. The fact that X-plane is a modern, supported platform is another huge improvement from FS9. Not to mention the graphics!

Here's a teaser:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Paganize/IMG_1706_zps4plmiva8.jpg (http://s8.photobucket.com/user/Paganize/media/IMG_1706_zps4plmiva8.jpg.html)

I've also bought some Teensys and are currently working on coding various outputs. X-plane and teensyduino is going to let me do so much more than fs9 would ever do. Imagination and time is the only limitation.

More to come!
Cheers!

[Avgas110]

Just to let you know I have taken photos of the parts I have from a 727-212 cockpit. I'll also post over in the classifieds. Below is the link to the photos.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7EfRrfL0FV1QVFkOHh2b0liN2c

[Avgas110]

Hello,

Your sim looks really nice.

I am happy to sell everything that I have, see here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B7EfRrfL0FV1QVFkOHh2b0liN2c

Let me know what you think is a far price and we'll go from there. I'll have to work out shipping, let me know where you are.

Feel free to email me at kelvin@mytechspace.co.nz

In the meantime I need to try and work out why I cannot post in the classifieds.

Cheers,

Kelvin

[blueskydriver]

Hi Kelvin,

Thank you for posting these items. I am not sure what too say about a fare price, since B727 parts are not much of a collectors or builders top of the list litem(s). Best way would be to check ebay for comparable items and price accordingly. There are for sure a lot of these items I'd like to buy, but like anyone else I don't want to insult you by making a low offer. I will check some prices on items listed elsewhere and come up with an offer for you later...

Best Regards,

John

[Avgas110]

Hi Kelvin,

Thank you for posting these items. I am not sure what too say about a fare price, since B727 parts are not much of a collectors or builders top of the list litem(s). Best way would be to check ebay for comparable items and price accordingly. There are for sure a lot of these items I'd like to buy, but like anyone else I don't want to insult you by making a low offer. I will check some prices on items listed elsewhere and come up with an offer for you later...

Best Regards,

John

No problems, I'm happy to work with you on the cost, I'm sure that we could work something out.

Kelvin

[blueskydriver]

Hey Kelvin,

I forgot to mention, once you get your Classifieds setup, will you please start a new post and repost your photos there? This is a thread for Norwegian 727-200 Project and I don't want us to hijack it, by going off topic somewhat...

John

[Avgas110]

Hey Kelvin,

I forgot to mention, once you get your Classifieds setup, will you please start a new post and repost your photos there? This is a thread for Norwegian 727-200 Project and I don't want us to hijack it, by going off topic somewhat...

John

Yes of course.

[AVIATor-Olav]

Whatever you do, don’t buy anything from the gentleman above. I sent him money for some of the intems he advertised, but he never sent anything. I’ve tried to contact him several times through e-mail and IM. Nothing. It’s been well over a year since I heard from him now. Now you know.
Cheers!

[AVIATor-Olav]

New video update.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69c6_AC5n_c&t=13s

[AVIATor-Olav]

Wow, this place is really quiet! Where is everybody?<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BYtvx9l-TVE" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KD7eX8l7KAQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[AVIATor-Olav]

Another video is up. Share, like, comment and subscribe to my YouTube channel if you like it.https://youtu.be/JFSsYAYG9wY