SIOC not seeing devices

[Jerrymc3]

I upgraded my PC this week: Asus Z87 PRO MB and i7 4770K CPU. After I got everything up and running I started SIOC but my 2 USB Expansion Cards weren't listed under Devices. I checked the cables and noticed the led on the cards doesn't blink once as usual when I plug/unplug the USB cable. I plugged a jump drive into the USB slots I was using for the Exp cards and Windows sees them fine. I tried reinstalling SIOC but it didn't help. I've never run accross this problem when swapping boards before. Anyone have an idea what's causing the problem?

Jerry

[Perik]

Hello Jerry.

Have you updated your Sioc.ini according to the new USB numbers?

Remember to use correct USB connector on MB as just a few of
them are USB 1.1 compliant.

USB Ports Intel® Z87 chipset :
4 x USB 3.0/2.0 port(s) (2 at back panel, blue, 2 at mid-board)
8 x USB 2.0/1.1 port(s) (8 at mid-board)
4 x USB 3.0/2.0 port(s) (4 at back panel, blue)

[Jerrymc3]

Have you updated your Sioc.ini according to the new USB numbers?

The device numbers aren't showing up in SIOC for some reason.

I plugged my 2 USB Exp Cards into a USB addon module that is plugged into one of the 8 x USB 2.0/1.1 port(s) (8 at mid-board). A jump drive works fine in them so I can't understand why SIOC can't see them.


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Here is my sioc.cfg

[ fichero de configuracion para el SIOC ver. 4.5 ]
[ Configuration file for SIOC ]


[************** SIOC ***************]

[ Nombre asignado al SIOC ]
[ SIOC name ]
Name=Main

[ Puerto del servidor IOCP ]
[ IOCP port ]
IOCP_port=8092

[ Tiempo de respuesta máximo de los paquetes IOCP ]
[ IOCP Timeout ]
IOCP_timeout=4000

[ Arranque minimizado en la barra ]
[ Start minimized in tray ]
Minimized=No

[ Retraso necesario para las variables toggles (Project Magenta)]
[ Deley needed for var. toggles (Project Magenta) ]
toggle_delay=20

[ Fichero de configuracion ]
[ Configuration File ]
CONFIG_FILE=.\PM_B747-400.ssi

[************** MONITOR MODULE ***************]

[ Desabilitar monitorizacion remota del SIOC ]
[ Remote monitor disable mode yes/no ]
Monitor_disable=No

[ Refresco broadcast monitor (en segundos) ]
[ Broadcast monitor time (seconds) ]
Monitor_time=2


[************** IOCARDS MODULE ***************]

[ Desactivar el módulo de las IOCards ]
[ Disable IOCards module ]
IOCard_disable=No

[ Divisor de frecuencia para los ejes analogicos (1-999). Retarda la entrega de valores. ]
[ Frequency divisor for delay the analogic axes. (1-999)]
Divisor_AD=10

[------------- CARDS CONFIG -------------]

[ IOCard Master ]
[...............]

[ Spanish : ]

[ MASTER=(Indice device),(Tipo),(Número de tarjetas),(Número device) ]

[ Indice Device: Índice usado en la variable SIOC como device, para indicar a que tarjeta se hace referencia ]
[ Se usa 0 en el caso de que sólo haya una tarjeta y no se tenga en cuenta el número de device, por defecto un script en SIOC cuando no se pone parámetro DEVICE, se hace referencia al índice 0]

[ tipo = 0 : Emulador de Master Card // OBSOLETO ]
[ tipo = 1 : Tarjeta Master conectada al puerto paralelo directamente // OBSOLETO ]
[ tipo = 2 : Tarjeta Master conectada al puerto paralelo mediante cable de compatibilidad // OBSOLETO ]
[ tipo = 3 : Placa de expansión por puerto paralelo // OBSOLETO ]
[ tipo = 4 : Tarjeta USBExpansion usada ]
[ tipo = 5 : Modulo MCP de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 6 : Tarjeta USBOutputs ]
[ tipo = 7 : Modulo EFIS de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 8 : Modulo Radio COM de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 9 : Modulo Radio NAV de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 10 : Modulo Radio ADF de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 11 : Modulo Radio ATC de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 12 : Modulo Radio Airbus RMP de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 13 : Modulo FMC-737 de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 14 : Tarjeta USBDcmotorPLUS ]
[ tipo = 15 : Modulo MCP V3 de Opencockpits ]
[ tipo = 16 : Modulo CRONOMETRO B737 ]


[ Número de tarjetas = Número de placas Master usadas, 1 a 4 para uso de placas de expansión, 1 para conexión de placa Master directa o del Emulador ]

[ Número de device = 0 en el caso del Emulador o primera tarjeta USB detectada, Dirección del puerto paralelo (por ejemplo $0378), o número de dispositivo USB ]


[ Un ejemplo de 2 USBExpansion conectadas con 3 y 2 placas Master ]
[ MASTER=0,4,3,22 ]
[ MASTER=1,4,2,24 ]

[ Un ejemplo de conexión a simulador ]
[ MASTER=0,0,1,0 ]


[ English : ]

[ MASTER=(Device index),(Type),(Number of cards),(Device number) ]

[ Device index : Index used in SIOC variable like device, this is the card used for SIOC sentence ]
[ Use 0 for only one card, for this value you not need specify Device number. If you not use DEVICE parameter in a definition in SIOC script, the default index used is 0]

[ type = 0 : Master Card Emulator // OBSOLETE ]
[ type = 1 : Master Card connected directly to parallel port // OBSOLETE ]
[ type = 2 : Master Card connected throught compatibility cable to parallel port //OBSOLETE]
[ type = 3 : Expansion Card connected throught parallel port //OBSOLETE ]
[ type = 4 : USBExpansion Card used ]
[ type = 5 : Opencockpits MCP module ]
[ type = 6 : USBOutputs Card used ]
[ type = 7 : EFIS module ]
[ type = 8 : Radio COM module ]
[ type = 9 : Radio NAV module ]
[ type = 10 : Radio ADF module ]
[ type = 11 : Radio ATC module ]
[ type = 12 : Radio RMP Airbus module ]
[ type = 13 : FMC-737 module ]
[ type = 14 : USBDCmotorPLUS Card used ]
[ type = 15 : MCP V3 module ]
[ type = 16 : CHRONO B737 module ]

[ Number of Cards = Master cards connecteds, 1 to 4 for expansion cards, 1 for a Master card directly connected or Emulator ]

[ Number of device = 0 for Emulator or first USB card detected, parallel port address, device number for specifies USBexpansion card ]

MASTER=0,4,3,23
MASTER=1,4,4,25

[ For example, two USBExpansion cards connected with 3 and 2 Master cards used ]
[ MASTER=0,4,3,22 ]
[ MASTER=1,4,2,24 ]

[ For example, use of Master card emulator ]
[ MASTER=0,0,1,0 ]

[ Use the first USBExpansion card connected with only one Master Card attached ]
[ Esta definición es para usar la primera tarjeta USBExpansion que se encuentre instalada que además llevará conectada una placa Master ]

[MASTER=3,6,1,252]
[MASTER=0,4,1,0]
[MASTER=0,12,1,0]
[MASTER=0,16,1,0]

[ Others Cards / Otras tarjetas ]
[...............................]

[ Spanish : ]

[ Nombre_de_tarjeta=(Indice device),(Número device) ]

[ Indice Device: Índice usado en la variable SIOC como device, para indicar a que tarjeta se hace referencia ]
[ Se usa 0 en el caso de que sólo haya una tarjeta y no se tenga en cuenta el número de device, por defecto un script en SIOC cuando no se pone parámetro DEVICE, se hace referencia al índice 0]

[ Número de device = 0 para usar primera tarjeta USB de este tipo detectada ó número de dispositivo USB ]


[ English : ]

[ Name_of_card=(Device index),(Device number) ]

[ Device index : Index used in SIOC variable like device, this is the card used for SIOC sentence ]
[ Use 0 for only one card, for this value you not need specify Device number. If you not use DEVICE parameter in a definition in SIOC script, the default index used is 0]

[ Number of device = 0 for first USB card of this type detected, or device number for a specifies device ]

[ Ejemplo de dos USBServos en indices 0 y 1, y números de devices 17 y 23 ]
[ Example of two USBServos for index 0 and 1, and device number 17 and 23 ]

[ USBServos=0,17 ]
[ USBServos=1,23 ]


[USBStepper=0,0]
[USBKeys=0,0]
[USBServos=0,0]
[USBRelays=0,0]
[USBDCmotor=0,0]

[ Para los ejes analógicos se usan los números de devices de las tarjetas donde están alojados ]
[ For analogic axles, you use the device number of cards what allow the axles ]

[USBAnalogic=0,0]


[************** FSUIPC MODULE ***************]

[ Desabilitar lectura de las FSUIPC ]
[ FSUIPC disable mode yes/no ]
FSUipcdisable=No

[ Refresco recepción FSUIPC ]
[ FSUIPC refresh ]
FSUipcRefresh=50


[************** IOCP CLIENTS MODULES ***************]

[ Retraso para inicializacion una vez conectado el cliente en milisegundos ]
[ Delay for initialization when client has been connected in mseconds ]
IOCPini_delay=3000

[************** IOCP CLIENT MODULE #0 ***************]

[ Desactivar el módulo cliente IOCP ]
[ Disable IOCP client module ]
IOCPclient0_disable=No

[ IP del servidor donde debe de conectar el cliente ]
[ IOCP client host name ]
IOCPclient0_host=localhost

[ Puerto de envio del protocolo IOCP cliente ]
[ IOCP client port ]
IOCPclient0_port=8099


[************** IOCP CLIENT MODULE #1 ***************]

[ Desactivar el módulo cliente IOCP ]
[ Disable IOCP client module ]
IOCPclient1_disable=Yes

[ IP del servidor donde debe de conectar el cliente ]
[ IOCP client host name ]
IOCPclient1_host=localhost

[ Puerto de envio del protocolo IOCP cliente ]
[ IOCP client port ]
IOCPclient1_port=8099


Jerry

[Perik]

Hi Jerry.

I’ve no clue actually.
What do USBCheck (http://www.opencockpits.com/index.php/en/download/item/USBCheck%202.0%20?category_id=22)tell you – any OC hardware showing up at all?</SPAN>

[fordgt40]

Jerry

OC cards are intolerant of some addon hubs etc. Have you tried connecting each expansion card directly into a USB port (not through your add-on) to see if SIOC recognises the card?

David

[Jerrymc3]

This wasn't an addon hub, just a plate with 4 external USB ports installed in a slot in the back of the chassis and plugged into 2 USB 2.0/1.1 port connectors. I didn't reinstall Windows7 after installing this motherboard, just installed the drivers and applications on the Asus disk. I wonder if that could be a problem. I will try USB Check but all the USB ports on the I/O backplate are USB 3.0 on this board. Thx for the input. I'll let you know what I find as soon as I get back to my cockpit this afternoon.

Jerry

[Jerrymc3]

Here is the list of USB Devices Detected by USBCheck ver 2.0

Device VID=FEEB PID=DEEF
USB Receiver . . Device=4
USB Receiver . . Device=3
USB Receiver . . Device=44
USB Receiver . . Device=40
USB Receiver . . Device=41
USB Receiver . . Device=45
CH Products AuxDev 1 . . Device=6
CH Products AuxDev 2 . . Device=5
Control Manager ID #00 . . Device=68
Control Manager ID #00 . . Device=65
Control Manager ID #00 . . Device=58

No mention of IOCARDS.

[fordgt40]

Did you try plugging the expansion cards into different usb ports?

[Perik]

Jerry,

Are you sure you're at the latest and greatest from ASUS driver page (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87PRO/#support)
Seems some of the updates are quite new.

[Jerrymc3]

I tried all 4 of the USB USB 2.0/1.1 ports but not the 3.0. I thought it automatically checked for Asus driver updates but I will make sure. I'll call Asus tech support and see if I can get help from them. Otherwise I may have to take this board back.

[Jerrymc3]

After talking to Asus tech support I wound up exchanging this motherboard and reinstalling a fresh copy of Windows7. Dallas, TX was hit with a major ice storm Thursday night and I lost my electricity for 5 days and I just got back into my house last night. I installed SIOC today and I guess all that was for nothing because I'm having the same problem with the new board. Has anyone else tried using SIOC on a Z87 motherboard and been successful or had the same problem I'm having. I'm just not sure where to go from here.

[iwik]

Jerry,
Have you tried plugging these exp bd in to another pc?.

Les

[Jerrymc3]

Jerry,
Have you tried plugging these exp bd in to another pc?.

Les
Yes, they both work fine on a EVGA 750i FTW motherboard.

[kiek]

Hi,
Have you tried this free USBDeview (http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/usb_devices_view.html) utility to clean up your USB devices in your PC?

regrds,
Nico

[iwik]

Jerry,
Have you tied Emailng o/c. Have found them helpful in the past.
Do you have another o/c usb card to try?.
As a long shot, if you can program another pic for the exp card and try it.
Reason I say this is that I have read at times that people have had trouble
getting cards recognised and have returned them and they were fixed.
Not always convinced that just because it works in another machine that
there aint a compatability issue with th MB.
I agree its a long shot.
Sorry I can not be anymore helpful.
Good Luck.

Les
P.S Just did a quick search and it looks like some people have trouble with ext hd on usb ports on this mb.
It maybe or problem.

[Jerrymc3]

I downloaded and opened USBDview but I didn't understand how to use it to clean up my USB devices. I just clicked on enable for my devices but it didn't do any good. I left a post on the o/c forum a couple of days ago but haven't gotten any replies. I tried using Asus EZ Update to update my BIOS and now my CH Yoke, Rudder Pedals and Throttle Quadrant have quit working as well. Reinstalled Control Manager but my joysticks are still dead in the water. I've been building Flight Sim computers since 1993 and I have never had so much trouble with a motherboard. What is ext hd? If I don't get these problems resloved in the next couple of days I guess I will return this MB. Can anyone recommend a good Z87 MB that will work with SIOC?

Jerry

[iwik]

Jerry,
Sorry, ext hd is external hard drive.
Have a look here and try the up date mentioned.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1403541/asus-z87-deluxe-usb-camera-doesnt-work

Les

[Jerrymc3]

Jerry,
Sorry, ext hd is external hard drive.
Have a look here and try the up date mentioned.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1403541/asus-z87-deluxe-usb-camera-doesnt-work

Les

I tried the update and got a message box saying "Your software doesn't need to be updated". I hate to say it but it looks like the only option is to return this motherboard. I just wish I knew for sure that the problem isn't with all Z87 motherboards. Before I bought this board I was seriously considering the ASRock Z87 Extreme4 Socket LGA 1150. It is highly recommended by Tom's Hardware. Is anyone successfully using a Z87 board with SIOC? If so, please let me know.

Jerry

[iwik]

I Tend to agree that a M/B change maybe the best option. It was on Tom's Hardware
forum that i read about some people with this board had the ext hard disk problems.
Sorry cant be of much more help.
Good Luck.

les
P.S Try posting on mycockpit.org as there are plenty of
o/c users there.

[Jerrymc3]

les
P.S Try posting on mycockpit.org as there are plenty of
o/c users there.

I thought this was mycockpit.org

[iwik]

Old age creeping in. Should have been Cockpitbuilders.com
To use USBDview select Edit and select all your devices or those you want
to delete and then go to File and hit uninstall.
Les

P.S Nick on simforums recommends this mb. He may offer
some suggestions.

http://www.simforums.com/forums/haswell-48ghz-on-air-building-a-haswell-system_topic46180.html

[Jerrymc3]

I gave up on the Asus board, went back to Microcenter and got an ASRock Z87 Extreme4 LGA. Got everything installed including SIOC and my Mastercards showed up just fine. Relieved to know that the problem wasn't with Z87 boards in general. I'll be shying away from Asus boards from now on.

Jerry

[iwik]

Jerry thanks for the update. I will be updating shortly so appreciate your feedback.
Will avoid Asus and try something else.

Regards
Les