Throttle problems

[flyboy01]

Hi All,
I purchased a throttle Quadrant from Revolution Sim Products. I have not been able to get the throttle to work properly with the SIOC file they sent me for compatability for Sim Avionics software. The throttle does strange and eratic things. During the climb out phase the throttles seem to hunt for a position to stop at. (moving back and forth very fast). When the aircraft reaches the cruise phase of flight The throttles on the plane are at about 90%NI but the throttle handles are commanded to the idle position. The speed brake lever does not move and the speed brake ground/flight lock does not operate. The flaps do not move to their correct position and the handle has to be sitting out of the position gate. I have tried contacting Revolution Sim Products now known as CAT III and they fail to reply to the support questions through their contact us page. I have sent several emails and no response from them. It seems there is a complete lack of after sales support from this company. If anyone is able to provide me with some help i would be eternally grateful.

Kind Regards
Trevor.

[zeineddine]

Hello Trevor. Are you sure the motor assignments in SIOC are correct for each motor and USB port? That would be the first check to do. When you have SIOC opened, unplug/plug a USB to see which value is assigned to each device and write them down then make sure your sioc.ini file has the right configuration for each device. Then in SIOC you can check the values as you operate each control and send them values to check the operation. I think your main problem is SIOC assignments to each port. I can share my ssi file if you want to show you variables and respective code for each variable.

Rob

[flyboy01]

Hi Rob,
That would be great if you could send me your ssi file so i can see where i may have gone wrong.
Kind Regards
Trevor

[zeineddine]

So just to make sure:

1. Verify all your USB connections from the Throttle appear in SIOC as devices (should be 2 devices)
2. Make sure these devices are configured properly in sioc.ini with USBDCmotor and USBAnalogic (preferably not to use IDX 0)
3. Make sure all variables are loaded properly in your SIOC ssi
4. Use IOCP Console in SIOC to verify that when you move throttle parts the variables change values accordingly.

You can also use the calibration program provided from RSP if you need to.

The RSP Throttle documentation can be found here:

http://www.revolution-simproducts.com/Downloads_files/B737%20NG%20MOTORIZED%20THROTTLE%20SETUP%20MANUAL_V33.pdf

The throttle variables in ssi are in the 2000 series:

Var 2000, name Motor_1, Link USB_DCMOTOR, Device 2, Output 6

Var 2001, name A1, Link USB_ANALOGIC, Device 2, Input 1, PosL 10, PosC 122, PosR 255
{
IF &ATengage = 1
{
IF &A1 < &potfark
{
IF &toga = 1
{
&Motor_1 = 52
&Leverdiscon = 192
}
IF &toga <> 1
{
&Motor_1 = 52
&Leverdiscon = 192
}
}
IF &A1 > &potfark
{
&Motor_1 = 180
&Leverdiscon = 192
}
IF &A1 < &potplus
{
IF &A1 > &potminus
{
&Motor_1 = 0
}
}
IF &toga = 0
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&Leverdiscon = 0
&Motor_1 = 0
&throttle = &A1 / 0.0154
}
}
}
IF &ATengage = 0
{
&throttle = &A1 / 0.0154
&Motor_1 = 0
&Leverdiscon = 0
}
&angle = &A1 - &A2
&angle = ABS &angle
}

Var 2002, name potfark
{
IF &ATengage = 1
{
IF &potfark > &A1
{
&Motor_1 = 52
}
IF &potfark < &A1
{
&Motor_1 = 180
}
IF &potfark < &A1plus
{
IF &potfark > &A1minus
{
&Motor_1 = 0
&Motor_2 = 0
}
}
IF &toga = 0
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&Leverdiscon = 0
&Motor_1 = 0
&throttle = &A1 / 0.0154
}
}
}
}

Var 2003, name throttle, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $088C, Length 2
{
IF &throttle > 60000
{
IF &IAScalc >= 65
{
IF &spoilerARM = 0
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&SpdBrkArmLatch = 80
&spdbrkMOTOR = DELAY 100 ,100
&spdbrkMOTOR = DELAY 0 ,400
&SpdBrkArmLatch = DELAY 0 ,200
}
}
}
}
IF &throttle < 59000
{
IF &throttle > 500
{
IF &speedbrkPOT > 170
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&SpdBrkArmLatch = 220
&spdbrkMOTOR = 200
&spdbrkMOTOR = DELAY 0 ,400
&SpdBrkArmLatch = DELAY 0 ,200
}
}
}
}
IF &throttle <> &threskideger
{
&trfark = &throttle - &threskideger
&threskideger = DELAY &throttle ,20
&potfark = &throttle * 0.0154
&potminus = &potfark - 8
&potplus = &potfark + 8
}
}

Var 2004, name threskideger, Value 0

Var 2005, name potplus

Var 2006, name trfark

Var 2007, name potminus

Var 2008, name ATengage, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $0810, Length 4

Var 2013, name Motor_2, Link USB_DCMOTOR, Device 2, Output 2

Var 2014, name A2, Link USB_ANALOGIC, Device 2, Input 2, PosL 10, PosC 122, PosR 255
{
IF &ATengage = 1
{
IF &A2 < &potfark2
{
&Motor_2 = 52
&Leverdiscon = 192
}
IF &A2 > &potfark2
{
&Motor_2 = 180
&Leverdiscon = 192
}
IF &A2 < &potplus2
{
IF &A2 > &potminus2
{
&Motor_2 = 0
}
}
IF &toga = 0
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&Leverdiscon = 0
&Motor_2 = 0
&throttle2 = &A2 / 0.0154
}
}
}
IF &ATengage = 0
{
&throttle2 = &A2 / 0.0154
&Motor_2 = 0
&Leverdiscon = 0
}
&angle = &A2 - &A2
&angle = ABS &angle
}

Var 2015, name potfark2
{
IF &ATengage = 1
{
IF &potfark2 > &A2
{
&Motor_2 = 52
}
IF &potfark2 < &A2
{
&Motor_2 = 180
}
IF &potfark2 < &A2plus
{
IF &potfark2 > &A2minus
{
&Motor_2 = 0
&Motor_2 = 0
}
}
IF &toga = 0
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&Leverdiscon = 0
&Motor_2 = 0
&throttle2 = &A2 / 0.0154
}
}
}
}

Var 2016, name throttle2, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $0924, Length 2
{
IF &throttle2 > 60000
{
IF &IAScalc >= 65
{
IF &spoilerARM = 0
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&SpdBrkArmLatch = 80
&spdbrkMOTOR = DELAY 100 ,100
&spdbrkMOTOR = DELAY 0 ,400
&SpdBrkArmLatch = DELAY 0 ,200
}
}
}
}
IF &throttle2 < 59000
{
IF &throttle2 > 500
{
IF &speedbrkPOT > 170
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&SpdBrkArmLatch = 220
&spdbrkMOTOR = 200
&spdbrkMOTOR = DELAY 0 ,400
&SpdBrkArmLatch = DELAY 0 ,200
}
}
}
}
IF &throttle2 <> &threskideger2
{
&trfark2 = &throttle2 - &threskideger2
&threskideger2 = DELAY &throttle2 ,20
&potfark2 = &throttle2 * 0.0154
&potminus2 = &potfark2 - 8
&potplus2 = &potfark2 + 8
}
}

Var 2017, name threskideger2, Value 0

Var 2018, name potplus2

Var 2019, name trfark2

Var 2020, name potminus2

Var 2021, name Leverdiscon, Link FSUIPC_OUT, Offset $310A, Length 1

Var 2022, name IASdefault, Link FSUIPC_IN, Offset $07E2, Length 2
{
IF &IASdefault > 0
{
&potfark = &throttle * 0.0154
&potfark2 = &throttle2 * 0.0154
}
&pmdgfark = &pmdgeski - &IASdefault
&pmdgeski = DELAY &IASdefault ,200
}

Var 2023, name pmdgeski

Var 2024, name pmdgfark
{
IF &pmdgfark > 10
{
IF &ATengage = 1
{
IF &toga <> 1
{
&Motor_1 = 180
&Motor_2 = 180
}
}
}
IF &pmdgfark < 10
{
IF &ATengage = 1
{
IF &toga <> 1
{
&Motor_1 = 52
&Motor_2 = 52
}
}
}
}

Var 2025, name speedbrkPOT, Link USB_ANALOGIC, Device 1, Input 4, PosL 3, PosC 125, PosR 255
{
L0 = &speedbrkPOT * 115.83
&spoilerFS = L0 - 4800
IF &speedbrkPOT > 60
{
IF &speedbrkPOT < 78
{
&spoilerFS = 4800
&spoilerARM = 1
}
}
IF &speedbrkPOT < 59
{
&spoilerFS = 0
&spoilerARM = 0
}
}

Var 2026, name spdbrkMOTOR, Link USB_DCMOTOR, Device 1, Output 4

Var 2027, name spoilerARM, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $0BCC, Length 4

Var 2028, name spoiler, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $626F, Length 2

Var 2030, name spoilerFS, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $0BD0, Length 4

Var 2031, name flapPOT, Link USB_ANALOGIC, Device 2, Input 5, PosL 13, PosC 125, PosR 255
{
IF &flapPOT <= 20
{
IF &flapPOT > 0
{
&flappos = 0
}
}
IF &flapPOT <= 65
{
IF &flapPOT > 20
{
&flappos = 2047 // flaps 1
}
}
IF &flapPOT <= 105
{
IF &flapPOT > 65
{
&flappos = 4095 // flaps 2
}
}
IF &flapPOT <= 125
{
IF &flapPOT > 105
{
&flappos = 6143 // flaps 5
}
}
IF &flapPOT <= 145
{
IF &flapPOT > 125
{
&flappos = 8191 // flaps 10
}
}
IF &flapPOT <= 175
{
IF &flapPOT > 145
{
&flappos = 10239 // flaps 15
}
}
IF &flapPOT <= 195
{
IF &flapPOT > 175
{
&flappos = 12287 // flaps 25
}
}
IF &flapPOT <= 225
{
IF &flapPOT > 195
{
&flappos = 14335 // flaps 30
}
}
IF &flapPOT > 225
{
&flappos = 16383 // flaps 40
}
}

Var 2032, name flappos, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $0BDC, Length 4

Var 2033, name trim, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $0BC0, Length 2
{
&trimeski = DELAY &trim ,20
&trimfark = &trim - &trimeski
}

Var 2034, name toga, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $080C, Length 4

Var 2036, name A1plus

Var 2037, name A1minus

Var 2038, name A2plus

Var 2039, name A2minus

Var 2040, name trimmotor, Link USB_DCMOTOR, Device 1, Output 5

Var 2041, name trimeski

Var 2042, name trimfark
{
IF &trimfark > 5
{
&trimmotor = 180
&trimmotor = DELAY 0 ,300
}
IF &trimfark < -5
{
&trimmotor = 70
&trimmotor = DELAY 0 ,300
}
IF &trimfark <= 4
{
IF &trimfark >= -4
{
&trimmotor = 0
}
}
}

Var 2043, name trimindmotor, Link USB_DCMOTOR, Device 1, Output 6

Var 2044, name trimindpot, Link USB_ANALOGIC, Device 1, Input 3, PosL 10, PosC 123, PosR 255
{
IF &trimindpot < &trimcalc
{
&trimindmotor = 35
}
IF &trimindpot > &trimcalc
{
&trimindmotor = 150
}
IF &trimindpot < &indpotplus
{
IF &trimindpot > &indpotminus
{
&trimindmotor = 0
}
}
&indpotplus = &trimcalc + 3
&indpotminus = &trimcalc - 3
}

Var 2045, name trimindtest, Link FSUIPC_IN, Offset $2EA0, Length 8, Numbers 3
{
L0 = &trimindtest + 66
L1 = L0 / 1.42
&trimcalc = L1
}

Var 2046, name trimcalc
{
IF &trimindpot < &trimcalc
{
&trimindmotor = 35
}
IF &trimindpot > &trimcalc
{
&trimindmotor = 150
}
IF &trimindpot < &indpotplus
{
IF &trimindpot > &indpotminus
{
&trimindmotor = 0
}
}
&indpotplus = &trimcalc + 1
&indpotminus = &trimcalc - 1
}

Var 2047, name indpotplus

Var 2048, name indpotminus

Var 2049, name acongnd, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $0366, Length 2
{
IF &acongnd = 1
{
IF &spoilerARM = 1
{
&SpdBrkArmLatch = 245
&spoilerFS = 16383
&spdbrkMOTOR = 100
&spdbrkMOTOR = DELAY 0 ,400
&SpdBrkArmLatch = DELAY 0 ,200
}
}
IF &acongnd = 1
{
&splrcontMOTOR = 200
&splrcontMOTOR = DELAY 0 ,300
}
}

Var 2050, name FSIAS, Link FSUIPC_IN, Offset $02BC, Length 4
{
&IAScalc = &FSIAS / 128
}

Var 2051, name IAScalc

Var 2052, name splrcontMOTOR, Link USB_DCMOTOR, Device 2, Output 5

Var 2053, name angle
{
IF &angle >= 70
{
IF &ATengage = 1
{
&ATengage = 0
}
}
}


Var 1989, name SpdBrkArmLatch, Link USB_DCMOTOR, Device 1, Output 2

Var 1986, name gearcontrol, Link FSUIPC_INOUT, Offset $0BE8, Length 4
{
IF &gearcontrol = 0
{
&splrcontMOTOR = 125
&splrcontMOTOR = DELAY 0 ,100
}
}

[zeineddine]

Hi Trevor, hope you got it working by now.
Rob.

[flyboy01]

Hi Rob,
I have been away with work for a few weeks and only just got home. I have not had a chance to do anything with my sim yet but will hope to have a bit of free time in the next few days to try out your script. Thank you so much for sending it, and i am anxious to see if it fixes my problems.

Kindest regards
Trevor.