A320 Sharklet Model

[Dan320]

Hello dear cummunity

I know this topic has come up earlier on the forums but since the Project Airbus dev front, as far as i know, hasn't done any fsx Sharklet Version yet i thought i'd ask again.
Is there a way to merge a sharklet exterior model to the FMGS?
I tried a bunch of stuff with the Aerosoft Bus but ended my trials with the control surfaces not working.(exept for the Rudders) Also i had some issues iran in with the lighting and light controls.

Does anyone have any expirience with this?
I know the effort is a little overkill just for an exterior model. But you know... A little nuts.

Best regards, Daniel

[bbruechmann]

As I know, PA has done Sharkletversions for FSX and they can be found in the AVSIM-Library

but get those to work is complete different question. I´ve tried this already but in my P3D the aircraft is just invisible with the sharklet -mdl file.

I would already be happy if there would be an FMGS compatible visual model for the IAE-engine version. Because all visual models in Jeehell are showing the engines from CFM.

reg.
Bernd

[Dan320]

Hey Bernd

For some reason i can't find any working sharklet Version for FSX. Only the FS9 ones that i didn't get to work.
The neo looks so awesome. i wish there was an easy way to migrate the Aerosoft exterior model.
That's as far as i got it into the existing fmgs aircraft.cfg:
http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12891&stc=1http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=12892&stc=1


I fly the cfm version but i thought you could just migrate the liveries and models from the offical IAE ones.

Regards, Daniel



As I know, PA has done Sharkletversions for FSX and they can be found in the AVSIM-Library

but get those to work is complete different question. I´ve tried this already but in my P3D the aircraft is just invisible with the sharklet -mdl file.

I would already be happy if there would be an FMGS compatible visual model for the IAE-engine version. Because all visual models in Jeehell are showing the engines from CFM.

reg.
Bernd

[bbruechmann]

Hey Bernd

For some reason i can't find any working sharklet Version for FSX. Only the FS9 ones that i didn't get to work.
The neo looks so awesome. i wish there was an easy way to migrate the Aerosoft exterior model.
That's as far as i got it into the existing fmgs aircraft.cfg:

I fly the cfm version but i thought you could just migrate the liveries and models from the offical IAE ones.

Regards, Daniel

Hi Dan,
sorry for the late reply. It seems we have the same intention and the same issue. The way you thought can get it to work the same was mine.
Because PA never developed their aircrafts for P3D, only for FS9 and FSX, logically I can´t understand why it´s not working just to change the aircraft.mdl file. Why do the models work properly which come with Jeehell. Those are also only models for FSX.

Maybe this tread will be seen someday by an Sim-Objects crack, who can give an advice how the config and the models are connected.

reg.
Bernd

[bbruechmann]

Now i have takled it out a little bit more and at least i got my different models working with Jeehell. In general you can say, that the visual model is farely independent from the aircraft.cfg and the *.air file for the particular aircraft. BUT...,and this is an important but, in case of the visual apearence of the controlsurfaces, there is a dependency, of course. This means, that in theory any mdl-file, which works in P3D or FSX, can be used for the Jeehell Aircrafts, like the Aerosoft ones, but you have to exspect issues with the visual apearances of those parts of the model which are defined or even controled by the aircraft.cfg.
Because of this i have collected the different models for the A318 up to the A321 with CFM and IAE eninges which where desigend by Project Airbus for FSX (those are the only ones that P3D can work with instead of native P3D models which were never developed from PA)
Now i have the different visual models i need for my Lufthansa/Eurowings fleet. Therefore i had a need for two different models for the A319, one with the CFM and one with the IAE engines. Because Eurowings has the A319 only with IAE in use and Lufthansa with both engine-configuration. The A321 is used only by Lufthansa with IAE engines. And the A320 by both carriers with only the CFM engines. The most timeconsuming part was, to get the right FSX-Models by PA and of course the corresponding repaints of those different models.
But at least i have it in my hangar now and especially the Lufthansa A321 with IAE engines is a real beauty with 2048x2048 textures. The repaint was done by
Phillip Hughes as i know. But there is another one by Stefan Bree for the D-AIRK.

[bbruechmann]

From the perspective of Jean-Luc i can understand why he´s not desperate to get those models to work with Jeehell.
Because, if you use the FMGS for what it was and is designed for, therefore in a real homecockpit, you should not even need any visual outside-view of the airplane. Because a real pilot normaly don´t jump out of his seat in flight and flies around his aircraft outside like Ironman to get impressed by the view of his plane.
Because many of us like to do the Ironman, or just get heartwarming moments in just watching the GSX-Ground-services doing their stuff to our aircraft while on ground, would mean, that we are alone to get what we want. Sad, but true without any meaning of critisism. At least it is just possible with a little bunch of work and i thank JL that he left the FMGS that way open for those kind of adjustments.

[bbruechmann]

...oh i forgot the main part:

Though this means we will NOT have a sharklet model, because there is just never one developed by PA for FSX nor P3D.

But there is also a little light on the horizon:

You could use the sharklet model by Aerosofts A320 i. ex. if you have this package. But in this case you would need to use their aircraft.cfg aswell. Therefore you have to go thru the aircraft.cfg and migrate this to Jeehell´ FBW by checking and customize the flight-physically parameters like flaps config etc. to familiarize them with the parameters JL´s cfg´s are using. And you would even need to use the Jeehell *air files instead of the Aerosoft ones. Because the flightphysics of those airfiles from jeehell are exspected by the FMGS FBW, Autopilotsettings and performance calculations.

[Dan320]

Hey Bernd

Now that is an in dept update! Sounds like i'm gonna fiddle around some more and try this out with the Aerosoft Bus as i started.. I always understood why Jean-Luc never invested time in this since it really is a play around visual thing for people like us.

Thanks for your research.

Daniel

[a340-th]

I am reading this with much interest, though I am using Project Magenta. But I too would like to have the sharklet A320's back in P3D4. Many moons ago I have fiddled around with the Aerosoft bus (not the present version) but could not get it to work with my setup. Too many things are in the mdl and not in the cfg (or air ?).

[Jokast]

Hallo to all who love to fly a Sharklet- Model.On the Project Airbus Forum there can be found a new inofficial Mod with Sharklet for all Project Airbus Models for FSX and P3d.http://talk.pafs.wf/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3218#p32719 Look for the last post...Works fine with Jeehell on the first look! Happy easter!

[bbruechmann]

Hey, thank you for the link. Indeed the "Sharky" is doing well in P3D now finally. I really appreciate this and of course we have to thank the guy who compiled the FSX models. There must be done some refining in the aircraft.cfg for the lights, but this shouldn´t be a prob.Cheeers

[pete_fuss]

Hey, also from my side a big thanke You for the hint!As in the readme make new folders for the SL Models, so you can fix the problems that i found!I have to correct two things in the aircraft.cfg for the SL Modells,1.) The lights to delete the dobble lights2.) The first three contactpoints for the wheels, with this the plane is on the ground, when i insert the lines from the aircraft.cfg i cannot format this here! Sorry regards Pete

[Jokast]

Hey, also from my side a big thanke You for the hint!As in the readme make new folders for the SL Models, so you can fix the problems that i found!I have to correct two things in the aircraft.cfg for the SL Modells,1.) The lights to delete the dobble lights2.) The first three contactpoints for the wheels, with this the plane is on the ground, when i insert the lines from the aircraft.cfg i cannot format this here! Sorry regards PeteCan you explain what you make with the contactpoint settings?Another Questions does anybody know how to implement realistic Lighteffects on the PA like good landing lights? Taxi/Takeoff Lights and Rwy Turn off and Wing lights?

[pete_fuss]

good morning jokast,good morning Coburg, my birthplace.of course i can do that. in the aircraft.cfg in the [lights] section i have commented out the following 4 entries with the double slash //light.0=3 //light.1=3, //light.4=2 and //light.5=2 In the [contact_points] area at the first three point entries ,which are responsible for the three landing gear legs, at point .0 correct the value -11.9619 to -11.7019 and at point.1 and point.2 the value -12.458 to -12.22 and the plane is on the ground!Greetings Pete

[asessa]

Hallo to all who love to fly a Sharklet- Model.On the Project Airbus Forum there can be found a new inofficial Mod with Sharklet for all Project Airbus Models for FSX and P3d.http://talk.pafs.wf/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3218#p32719 Look for the last post...Works fine with Jeehell on the first look! Happy easter!Downloaded and installed! It's perfect!!!Thank you!

[bbruechmann]

...the funny part is, i still can remember, when the people ran away screaming in case you have "Sharks"....

[capt_pero]

...and I'm scared of sharks!

Maybe this link is helpful for one or the other - unfortunately in german... :-)
https://aviation.pero-online.de/wordpress/?p=2710

[Jokast]

I have only noticed a small failure... on the left Side between Arrow and Sharklet you can see the landscape... the Wing and the sharki match unfortunately not complete on this side🙈

[asessa]

...and I'm scared of sharks!Maybe this link is helpful for one or the other - unfortunately in german... :-)https://aviation.pero-online.de/wordpress/?p=2710Good point to start , but with that contact poitns the aircraft is under the terrain . So i use the original contact point

[Dan320]

All i can say is: works like a charm and thank you for the pointer.I love the new ModelRegards, Daniel

[Dan320]

By the way, does anyone have the correct GSX parameters for the sharklet model closeby?Regards, Daniel

[bbruechmann]

By the way, does anyone have the correct GSX parameters for the sharklet model closeby?Regards, DanielGrüezi Dan, i use the same GSX file as the one for the none SL, and it matches so far.

[Dan320]

Grüezi Dan, i use the same GSX file as the one for the none SL, and it matches so far.No idea why, but i had to change quite a lot compared to my original config. See text File attached. The top shows the contact points Peter had in his blog. Underneath my GSX config (not perefected by any means) Maybe that helps someone as well. Regards, Daniel

[Fraunus]

Hello everybody,I am also very interested in the JeeHell Sharklet variant.I have already tried a few things, unfortunately without success.Which flight model do you take as a base and where do you get it from?I can't find a suitable model for the A32x IAE at PA or FlightSim.Thanks and best regardsMario

[bbruechmann]

Hello everybody,I am also very interested in the JeeHell Sharklet variant.I have already tried a few things, unfortunately without success.Which flight model do you take as a base and where do you get it from?I can't find a suitable model for the A32x IAE at PA or FlightSim.Thanks and best regardsMarioMario, the "Sharky" can be downloaded here: http://talk.pafs.wf/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3218#p32719 Look for the post by UHWW of 20.03.2020. In case u missed it, our cummunity has a new forum now, which means post made in here won´t be read anymore by chance. Go to https://jeehell.org/forum/index.php for future demands.

[Fraunus]

Hello Bernd,Thank you for your feedback.I found and installed it.Now I just have to see how I color it, not my topic at all. ;-)I know the new forum, it was a little too quiet for me there, hence my entry in this threat.You also have the same problem as we do with post-landing trim. Let's hope that Marcin fixes that soon.Greetings to the coastMario

[bbruechmann]

Thank you Mario, it´s always good to know not to be the only lonly dummy with that issue.