Level D

[Bob Reed]

Hi guys I got a question,would it be possible to run project magenta for the glass and use leveld and fsconv for everything else without any conflicts?

No...If there is another autopilot involved PM gets all ticked off and the 2 autopilots fight for control of the aircraft. The aircraft gets tossed around with nothing controlling it.

[imported_767300]

Very interesting,thats a bummer because Ive spent alot for the glass autopilot and pm solutions but all this negative feedback worries me about project magenta ,and with the advent of FSCONV making things easier I really dont know what to choose from.I have downloaded both of them and ready to go with FDT sim boards but I dont want things being in conflict with each other.

[Bob Reed]

The hardware is not the problem It is trying to use some of the aircraft with PM. If the company does there own autopilot then you pretty much can not use that aircraft with PM unless you know how to remove all there panels and on some of the ac this is not possible like the PMDG 747.

[garyk007]

I spent most of yesterday on the cockpitware forums.
This is what I found.

They are making a glass cockpit for the 737.
An integrated FMC/CDU and autopilot functions.

So essentially its about the same funtionality as PM but it is free.
The problem is timing. They have released the glass cockpit already but are still a bit away from the release of the FMC.

So in the mean time I will get my cockpit up and running using the basic offsetsfrom flightsim.
For eg there are offsets for fuel pump, lights, starters, battery, generators etc.
I figure this is enough to get some of the switches on the overhead panel to work and using the glass cocpit software that is already released I can get the sim to a flyable state even if all the switches are not yet functional.
Hopefully in the comming months we will see a release of the FMC etc.

If cockpitware stops for some reason then I may be forced into PM, but I will hold out for as long as possible.

Thoughts?

[Bob Reed]

There is an early but working MCP too!

[garyk007]

So I have been looking into the cockpitware stuff.

Got it to work with FS

Have a question that maybe someone can answer:
It has a MCP right, well what are the offsets, so that I can use its functions.
Are they the same as the standard FS ones?
How can this be?
FS does not have some of the functions, like VNAV, LNAV, N1 etc.

Also for all the opencockpit gurus, is it possible to include a timer in the code.
For eg if I wanted to flick a switch and have an annunciator come on after a second or 2 but not straight away.
Is this possible.

Peter maybe you could answer this one.

I am making progress but it is a slow long process.

[Bob Reed]

So I have been looking into the cockpitware stuff.

Got it to work with FS

Have a question that maybe someone can answer:
It has a MCP right, well what are the offsets, so that I can use its functions.
Are they the same as the standard FS ones?
How can this be?
FS does not have some of the functions, like VNAV, LNAV, N1 etc.

Well I have not looked that close. Does there MCP do Vnav and Lnav? I did not see any offsets, what I saw was keystrokes which can be done in FSUIPC as well. You will have to contact them to make sure.

[Polmer]

I have had good luck using SIOC to control the offsets and control the cockpitware MCP( except for that pesky flight director). Right now there is no LNAV & RNAV because the FMC isnt fininished yet. If they use key presses to activate the Lnav.Vnav functions, it shouldnt be to difficult to tap into them.

Polmer

[rhysb]

You can undock all the guages from Level-D and use them like PM as thats what i do mysrlf