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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    You can change the IP an the Port if running on Network. The same way as WideFS in the MS-Simulator. You can try FreeCondorInstruments http://condorsoaring.ru/projects/FreeCondorInstruments/ with the Condor-Protocol in your UDP Out. Maybe so you can check whether your DAT is not working or your UDP client.

    I'm not sure if that really works together. Is just an idea

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    I will try this also. Danke schön!

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Paljon menestystä

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    FreeCondor Instruments are only for Condor. It seems that there's nothing similar available for Silent Wings.
    I try to get a demo version from Simmeters. I am using only one computer so I don't have a networked computers.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    FreeCondor Instruments reads UDP-Data von any UDP-Server, not any Simulatordata. Silent Wings can send Condor-Protocol over UDP. Like FSUIPC and Glascockpitsoftware.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Quote Originally Posted by skino View Post
    FreeCondor Instruments reads UDP-Data von any UDP-Server, not any Simulatordata. Silent Wings can send Condor-Protocol over UDP. Like FSUIPC and Glascockpitsoftware.
    I tried to link Silent Wings and FreeCondor Instruments. No luck. Here is my setup:
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k...ree_condor.jpg

    Please advice if this is even possible and if you notice if something in my settings is incorrect.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Quick update: I finally managed to get UDP data out from Silent Wings software via UDP Client. I even tested the udp export with two different formats: Simmeters and Condor. The data flow looks very different between the two:
    http://lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/kuvat...r_UDP_info.jpg

    Next we will code interface between hardware and UDP data. Soon we will have a cooler fan that is controlled via changable airspeed from Silent Wings.

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    Some progress here:
    I have now ordered interface card for the control you and for the push buttons:
    http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836X/

    Also the SimMeters software gauges are tested, up and running in a temporary display:
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k...Y/IMG_1311.JPG
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k...Y/MVI_1316.MOV

    The soundsystem is also ready to be installed:
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k...dio+system.JPG

    Silent Wings user interface can be easily modified so I created a vintage slideshow, only for PIK-5 plane:
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k..._test.jpg/full

    One challenging thing was to modify the model by removing all other virtual cockpit parts but the yaw indicator. This was possible with a Silent Wings 3D program. Here is the result, up and running:
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k...+rope+only.JPG
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k..._indicator.MOV

    The most challenging part so far has been to find a right size LCD display that fits behind the original instrument panel. I only had to slighly expand the bottom section of the instrument panel to make the 10,1" LCD screen to fit. Here is a rough paper scetch, ver. 1.xxxxxxx
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k...-PAY/kuva3.JPG

    Here is the display: (sorry, in Finnish lanquage)
    http://www.data-systems.fi/product_info/4025/149012

    The original canopy was in a really bad shape so I have to build it again from the scratch.
    Luckily I got the original model from a local vintage soaring plane builder:
    http://lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/kuvat...-PAY/malli.jpg

    The actual restoration, fixing and painting is also about to start soon. I have only cut the fuselage shorter, behing the cockpit part.

    My friend is also designing me an interface where a normal computer cooling fan rotating speed is changes depending of the airspeed indicator data. We will place this cooling fan inside the cockpit, behing the rudder pedals. Since oldtimer sailplanes where not so sealed there will be some "wind" blowing inside the cockpit when flying faster and no airblow when the plane is stopped.

    Still plenty of work but hopefully someday the results should be something like this:
    http://lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/kuvat...nnitelma_1.jpg

    One more cool thing was that I was able to go to a Jämi Internation FlyIn and meet some of the real vintage PIK-5 flyers. Here are some pics and video clips of the real thing. (sorry about the strange mumbling, it is called Finnish lanquage)
    http://lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/kuvat/PIK-5+ohjaimet/

    The original flight dynamics /model is also under construction. I am more than happy that the original PIK-5 pilots are designing the flight model for me.

    At first there will be only one wide LCD screen for outside view and TrackIR for sideviews.

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    First prototype of the 2 x cooling fan with a changing rotating speed, guided by IAS gauge: http://www.youtube.com
    /watch?v=MGunFMN42H4

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    Re: PIK-5b vintage glider simulator

    More test bench flying until moving the instrument panel to the final 10.2" inch LCD screen.
    Silent Wings sim works really well.
    http://www.lentosimulaattori.1g.fi/k...Y/MVI_2452.MOV

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