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    anyone tried this

    Guys,

    I got a nice idea from a fellow Dutch builder (Rob van Dijk). Let your fs server pc produce 2 outside views. The upper half is 0 - 90 view and the lower half is 270-360 view. The projector is on top of your cockpit. In front of you, there are 2 (flat)mirrors. The upper one projects the view to the right and a bit to the floor. The lower one to the left and a bit to the ceiling.

    In our hobby , you would need a wide view . The view has not to be very high. Most cockpit windows will not be more than 20 cm in height. With this method you would get a view that is twice a wide as with a normal projection and twice as low, without any distortion.

    What do the visual specialist overhere think of this idea. Is it feasible? Has anyone tried it?

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    This would be the endresult
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    Thats a fantastic idea, actually. The biggest challenge is getting mirrors that will be the same and diffuse the light at the exact same intervals.

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    That's a neat idea! ... lateral thinking - I like it.
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    confused

    Can someone explain in more detail how the mirrors are positioned????
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    Dude!! That is Brilliant!! Will you be trying this??

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    mirrors

    I think I've seen this kind of stuff in Teuge a couple of years ago with the guys that later started FlightIllusion. They had a sim with a few mirrors that projected on the back of a round screen that was just in fornt of the cockpit.
    Looked nice but had one drawback; you could only choose between day or night. Dusk and dawn didn't work.

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    I wonder what it looks like in a turn... in a 20 degree left turn do the two halves split and both show a 20 deggree turn or will they stay together somehow?
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    @JWS

    Not completely. I know the teuge sim. Their visual system is done with mirrors too. But with more mirrors and in a far more complex way.
    They split the mirror vertically with 2 mirrors, and by 2 other mirrors the view is projected more from the side, so the distortion will be less then when the view would be projected direct to the curve screen.
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    @pylet.
    That would be no problem. The pc produces 2 windows above each other , and no instrument view.
    In a right curve you would see the second pic in this post.

    @ Impalazoo
    Take a mirror of 60 x 80 cm (or whatever your screensize will be with a projector that you use at the distance you use it). Cut the mirror in 2 equal parts in a horizontal line. Lift the upper part at the left a bit to the front. The lower part must be lifted to the front at the right side (left and right fro the pilots view)

    PS No, I did not do any experimenting with it. But will be investigating it when I am beginning with that part of the sim. More work to do on other parts of the sim at the moment.

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    I am also wondering, how much light will you loose using mirrors? How much does the final picture suffer?

    Another thing I was wondering about, maybe this is a bit stupid, but I am not so into projectors: lets say the throw distance needs to be 4m to create a picture size of 2m. When using mirrors the distance traveled can be increased without actually needing the 4m straight, right?

    So if I have a 2m space between projector and mirror, and 2m space between mirror and screen, would this be the same as having a 4m throw distance?

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